Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.

  • From: "Hal Pearson" <hspearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:54:44 -0500

Hi to all,

It appears that some of us are, including me and I think it may be because
it's a system issue. That's my educated guess anyway. I am not experienceing
the problem with jaws 4.51, and or 5.1. I don't know about you Walter, but I
am using windows me. If I'm not mistaken, you are operating under windows 98
se.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.


> I don't havethat   problem with JaWS 5 or 6.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
>
>
> > It is a jaws problem, to prove it, go to an earlier version of jaws, and
> you won't have that trouble anymore.
> > Walter Siren
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Barbara.McGinnis@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 8:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> >
> >
> > > I must tab four times to get to the message field in my Outlook
Express.
> > >  Why?  Because my husband changed out email so that the first line is
> from
> > > followed by to on the second line, cc on the third line, and subject
on
> the
> > > fourth line.  It does not appear to be a JAWS problem.  I know it is
not
> > > a JAWS problem as I can see what happens when I tab.
> > >
> > > >-- Original Message --
> > > >From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > > >Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 09:11:56 -0600
> > > >Reply-To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Which version of windows are you using?
> > > >Walter Siren
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "ron McEwan" <blindboy56@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 4:13 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> This hotkey works fine for me in both 5.1 and 6.0.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Hal Pearson" <hspearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:51 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hi Walter, I forgot about that one, and I am a real junky for
> hotkeys,
> > > >> > smile. You're right, it doesn't work with jfw 6; focus is lost
when
> > > I
> > > >try
> > > >> > it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hal
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:13 PM
> > > >> > Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > actually, if I tab from the to field, I have to tab four times
to
> > > get
> > > >> into
> > > >> > the messsage body, while with earlier
> > > >> > > versions of jaws, I only had to tab three times.  Now, I don't
> have
> > > >the
> > > >> > bcc field showing.  I am using windows 98 se.
> > > >> > > Walter Siren
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:05 AM
> > > >> > > Subject: Re: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Hi,  Walter,
> > > >> > > > The  "alt grave"  hot key is onet hing in  Outlook
Expressthat
> doesw
> > > >> ork
> > > >> > for
> > > >> > > > me with JAWS 6.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > > From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:19 AM
> > > >> > > > Subject: Oe hotkey won't work in jaws 6.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > I recently found a hotkey for OE.  This key is alt+grave,
> this
> > > >> hotkey
> > > >> > > > allows one to skip from the to field in  a message
> > > >> > > > > to the message body.  With jaws 6 however, it doesn't work.
> Has
> > > >> > anybody
> > > >> > > > else ran across this.
> > > >> > > > > Walter Siren
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:04 AM
> > > >> > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re:
> Bug
> > > >> Fixes
> > > >> > in
> > > >> > > > JAWS 6.0
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > I'm using a 2.53 GHz processor.  I think the other figure
> was
> > > >from
> > > >> > an
> > > >> > > > > > old laptop.
> > > >> > > > > > -------------------------
> > > >> > > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > > >> > > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Add
> > > >> > > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > to your MSN contact list
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Or Visit my web site at
> > > >> > > > > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > > >> > > > > > -------------------------
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >> On
> > > >> > > > > > Behalf Of david poehlman
> > > >> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
> > > >> > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
Re:
> > > Bug
> > > >> > Fixes in
> > > >> > > > > > JAWS 6.0
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > What do you get then when you look at system in controll
> panel?
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Johnnie Apple Seed
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > > > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:13 AM
> > > >> > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
Re:
> > > Bug
> > > >> > Fixes in
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > JAWS 6.0
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Right.  I used the System Information tool and saved in
> plain
> > > >> text.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > -------------------------
> > > >> > > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > > >> > > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Add
> > > >> > > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > to your MSN contact list
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Or Visit my web site at
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > > >> > > > > > -------------------------
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >> On
> > > >> > > > > > Behalf Of david poehlman
> > > >> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:11 PM
> > > >> > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
Re:
> > > Bug
> > > >> > Fixes in
> > > >> > > > > > JAWS 6.0
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > matt,
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > If you go to control panel, open system and read with the
> jaws
> > > >> > cursor or
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > ins+b, you are told in plain english what system you
have.
> > > I'm
> > > >> not
> > > >> > sure
> > > >> > > > > > what you are running to get the result you have below,
but
> thought
> > > >> > this
> > > >> > > > > > might help.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Johnnie Apple Seed
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > > > > From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 AM
> > > >> > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
Re:
> > > Bug
> > > >> > Fixes in
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > JAWS 6.0
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > OK, I thought I got it right, but when I interrogated the
> system
> > > >> > this
> > > >> > > > > > line came up:
> > > >> > > > > > Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel
> ~2532
> > > >MhZ
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > If I interpreted this line correctly I have a 2532MhZ
> processor!
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > -------------------------
> > > >> > > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > > >> > > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Add
> > > >> > > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > to your MSN contact list
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Or Visit my web site at
> http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > > >> > > > > > -------------------------
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >> On
> > > >> > > > > > Behalf Of Chip Orange
> > > >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:13 PM
> > > >> > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
Re:
> > > Bug
> > > >> > Fixes in
> > > >> > > > > > JAWS 6.0
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > If you got that right (and it's not a typo) and your
> processor
> > > >> speed
> > > >> > was
> > > >> > > > > > only 256 mhz, then I could see why switching to a
hardware
> > > >> > synthesizer
> > > >> > > > > > had such an improvement for you.  That was quite a load
for
> > > your
> > > >> > system.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Chip
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > =20
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > > >> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >> > > > > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> > > >> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:05 PM
> > > >> > > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> Re:=20
> > > >> > Bug
> > > >> > > > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =20  Well I had 512MB RAM and about
> 256MHZ
> > > >> > > > > > >Processors.  Running at=20  once I had a copy of WinAmp
> with
> > > >the
> > > >> > Audio
> > > >> > > > > > >stocker and=20  SHOUTcast plugin, Microsoft Outlook,
> SHOUTcast
> > > >> DNAS
> > > >> > > > > > >(GUI),=20  BVentrilo and the Ventrilo Server, and a copy
> of
> > > >JFW.
> > > >> > > > > > >This=20  slowed down the system quite a bit. =20
> > > >> > > > > > > -------------------------
> > > >> > > > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> > > >> > > > > > > =20
> > > >> > > > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > > >> > > > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > =20
> > > >> > > > > > > Add
> > > >> > > > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > to your MSN contact list
> > > >> > > > > > > =20
> > > >> > > > > > > Or Visit my web site at
> > > >> > > > > > > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > > >> > > > > > > -------------------------
> > > >> > > > > > >=20
> > > >> > > > > > >=20
> > > >> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > > >> > > > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip
> Orange
> > > >> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM
> > > >> > > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was -
> Re:=20
> > > >> > > > > > > Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> > > >> > > > > > >=20
> > > >> > > > > > >=20
> > > >> > > > > > > Ok,  this is the first opinion which strongly prefers
one
> > > to=20
> > > >> > > > > > > another for other than subjective reasons, and I
> appreciate
> > > >it.
> > > >> > > > > > >=20
> > > >> > > > > > > Would you say the system you were using when you made
> the=20
> > > >> > > > > > > switch was unusually slow, short of ram, or overloaded
> with=20
> > > >> > > > > > > processing tasks?
> > > >> > > > > > >=20
> > > >> > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > >> > > > > > >=20
> > > >> > > > > > > Chip
> > > >> > > > > > >=20
> > > >> > > > > > > =3D20
> > > >> > > > > > >=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
> > > >> > > > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> > > >> > > > > > > >On Behalf Of Horspool, Matthew F.
> > > >> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:30 AM
> > > >> > > > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -
was -
> > > >> Re:=3D20
> > > >> > =
> > > >> > > > > > Bug=20
> > > >> > > > > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20  Used DECtalk ACCESS32 for
about
> > > a=20
> > > >> > > > > > > year and then=20
> > > >> > > > > > > >switched to a=3D20  DECtalk USB for to get better
> broadcast=20
> > > >> > > > > > > clarity.  I=20
> > > >> > > > > > > >certainly=3D20  have noticed a huge difference in
> > > >> responsiveness:
> > > >> > =
> > > >> > > > > > The=20
> > > >> > > > > > > >DEC=3D20  USB is faster - a lot faster!
> > > >> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > -------------------------
> > > >> > > > > > > > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> > > >> > > > > > > > =3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > > >> > > > > > > > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > > =3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > Add
> > > >> > > > > > > > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > > to your MSN contact list
> > > >> > > > > > > > =3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > Or Visit my web site at
> > > >> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > > >> > > > > > > > -------------------------
> > > >> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John
> Miller
> > > >> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:20 PM
> > > >> > > > > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers -
was -
> > > >> Re:=3D20
> > > >> > =
> > > >> > > > > > Bug=20
> > > >> > > > > > > >Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20  I don't notice it if
so.
> > > >> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > > > > > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:47 AM
> > > >> > > > > > > > Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers -
was -
> > > >> Re:=3D20
> > > >> > =
> > > >> > > > > > Bug=20
> > > >> > > > > > > >Fixes in =3D20  JAWS 6.0 =3D20 =3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The
> question
> > > >is
> > > >> > that=20
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > on=3D20 todays systems, which usually have plenty
of
> =
> > > >> > > > > > processor=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > speed and RAM,=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > > does that really make any difference?
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T
Natural
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Voices=3D20=20 specifically, but I was wondering
> about
> > > >> > Eloquence.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Chip
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > =3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers -
was -
> > > >> Re:=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > Bug=3D3D20  Fixes
> > > >> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware
ones
> do.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> Well, no argument with your first point, it is
> more=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > difficult to have =3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>all of the sound coming out of one source; but,
when
> > > >> you=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > need to use =3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's
> also
> > > >=
> > > >> > > > > > more=3D3D20=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>=3D20 convenient. =3D3D20  As for your second, that
> just=20
> > > >> > > > > > > seems to come=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>down to personal=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > =3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>preference  as it doesn't bother me a bit.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> There is one which you didn't mention, but which
> I've=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > always wondered =3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence
> > > >> place=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > on=3D3D20  your=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>system  by having the software synth as compared to
> > > >> > sending=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > the text=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>to be  spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have
> any
> > > >> > facts=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>along=3D20 this
> > > >> > > > > > > > line?
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> Thanks.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> Chip
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Kerri
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
> Hello
> > > >> Chip.
> > > >> > I=20
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >despise software synthesizers mainly=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > because=3D3D3D20 if=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >you are required to listen to other media, I find
> it=20
> > > >> > > > > > > to=3D3D3D20=3D20=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >difficult to with a software synthesizer coming
> through=20
> > > >> > > > > > > the=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > >=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >=3D
> > > >> > > > > > >=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice,
> *all
> > > >of
> > > >> > them*
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D20
> =3D3D3D20
> > > >> > I'm=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express
> at=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > work,=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt
> there's=20
> > > >> > > > > > > much=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > >=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >=3D
> > > >> > > > > > >=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >difference.  Perhaps there's just something
I'm=20
> > > >> > > > > > > missing? =3D3D3D20 =20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >Thanks.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Chip
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > =3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Kerri
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20
> Chris,
> > > >> > I=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > vehemently=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >despise software synthesizers hence=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > my=3D3D3D3D20  dectalk=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >use and this is the only version that has been
> =3D
> > > >> > > > > > > rather=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>  sluggish.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0 =3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > =3D3D3D3D20 =
> > > >> > > > > > =3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > man I guess=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs
> =3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > > a=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then
> > > >> > again=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> I'm=3D3D3D3D20  using
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> a=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the=20
> > > >> > > > > > > reason.=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Never=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > did like=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >software speech and never will based on
> > > >> what=3D3D3D3D20=20
> > > >> > > > > > >  I've=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> seen.  By the
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >way, the murge feature is there. go
to=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> your=20
> > > >> > > > > > > jaws=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> window with =3D3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> alt=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D3D3D20
> and
> > > >it's
> > > >> =
> > > >> > > > > > in=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> there. or simply
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D3D3D20  you're
> > > >> running=20
> > > >> > > > > > > jaws in =3D
> > > >> > > > > > > =3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > > the=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > system tray=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >and go to utilities=3D3D3D3D20  and the murge
> utility=20
> > > >> > > > > > > is there.=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > >=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20  At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right?
> I'm=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > sorry, I=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > just couldn't=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst
> version
> > > >=
> > > >> > > > > > I've=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> had the=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It
> > > >> runs=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> terribley slow,=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >I'm=3D3D3D3D20 getting false attachments, no
> merge=20
> > > >> > > > > > > feature=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> anywhere. I=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >love=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > spending=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm
> being
> > > >a
> > > >> > grinch.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any
> bugs.=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > Smiling here.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was
> released
> > > >=
> > > >> > > > > > and=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> am trying=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 catch up with list mail
> before=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > installing the new =3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> release.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New
section
> for
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > 6.0=3D20=20 and=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > could swear=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug
> fixes,
> > > >but
> > > >> I'm
> > > >> > =
> > > >> > > > > > =3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > > not=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > finding it=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another
> senior
> > > >> moment,
> > > >> > =
> > > >> > > > > > =3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > > or=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > did FS not=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the
> wrong=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > place on=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > the FS site? =3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > I've been looking at:
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >=20
> > > >> > > > > > >
> >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > ea.asp#JAW
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >S_Features
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >     Thanks,
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Margaret
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > --
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > To post a message to the list, send it
> to=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a
> message
> > > >> to
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word
> unsubscribe
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >in=3D20=20 the=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > subject line.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Archives located at:=20
> > > >> > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > If you have any concerns about the list,
> post
> > > >=3D
> > > >> > > > > > > received=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > from the=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > list, or
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >the way the list is being run, do not post
them
> > > to
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >the=3D20=20 list.=3D3D3D20 Rather=3D3D3D3D20
> contact
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >list owner =
> > > >> > > > > > at=3D20=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >--
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it
> to=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a
> > > >> > message=3D20=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> with=20
> > > >> > > > > > > the word=3D20=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > subject line.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >Archives located at:
> > > >> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post
> received
> > > >> > =3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post
> them
> > > >> > to=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at
> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >--
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this incoming message.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -
> > > >> > Release=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >--
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -
> > > >> > Release=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >--
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >To post a message to the list, send it
> to=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a
> > > >> > message=3D20=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >to=3D3D3D3D20=3D3D3D20
> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> with=20
> > > >> > > > > > > the word=3D20=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >unsubscribe in the=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > subject line.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >Archives located at:
> > > >> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post
> received
> > > >> > =3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > > from=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > the list,=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >or the way the list is being run, do not post
> them
> > > >> > to=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > the=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > list. Rather=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >contact the list owner at
> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > --
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it
to=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20  To
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a
> message=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word
> unsubscribe
> > > >=
> > > >> > > > > > in=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >line.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Archives located at:
> > > >> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post
> > > >> > received=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> the=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not
> > > >> post=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner
at=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> =3D3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > --
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -
> Release
> > > >> =3D
> > > >> > > > > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > 3D3D3D3D20  --=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >=
> > > >> > > > > >  No=20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >virus=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > found in this
> > > >> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > > outgoing =3D3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> message.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 -
> Release
> > > >> =3D
> > > >> > > > > > > Date:=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > 12/21/2004=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > --
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > To post a message to the list, send it to=20
> > > >> > > > > > > jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  =3D
> > > >> > > > > > > =3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > > To=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a
> message=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > to=3D3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > >=3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word
> unsubscribe
> > > >=
> > > >> > > > > > in=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > the=3D3D3D3D20  subject=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >line.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Archives located at:
> > > >> > //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post
> > > >> > received=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> from=3D3D3D3D20  =3D3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> the=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >list, or the way the list is being run, do not
> > > >> post=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> them=3D3D3D3D20  to the
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> =3D3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >list. Rather contact the list owner
at=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> =3D3D3D
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >=3D3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > --
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> > > >> > > > > > > > >> 12/26/2004
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
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> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 -
> Release
> > > >=
> > > >> > > > > > Date:=3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> 12/26/2004
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> >=3D3D3D20
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > --
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> > > >> > > > > > > > the=3D3D20  subject
> > > >> > > > > > > >=3D20
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> > > >> > > > > > > > to the list.=3D20
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> > > >> > > > > > > > >>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe
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> > > >> > To
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> > > >> > > > > > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message
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> them=3D20
> > > >> to
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > >=
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=3D20  =
> > > >> > > > > > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > >=3D20
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> > > >> > > > > > > >unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message
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> > > >> to
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> > > >> > > > > > > >=
> > > >> > > > > >
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> > > >> > > > > > >list. Rather contact the list owner at=20
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> > > >> > > > > > the
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Rather
> > > >> contact
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> > > >> > >
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> > > >> > --
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> > > >>
> > > >> --
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> > > >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
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> >
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contact
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>
> --
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