Re: OE Silences
- From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:01:05 +0100
This sounds like a lot of extra work to me. I sit all day working in the
office, typing, and using keyboard shortcuts instead of the mouse. Over a
day or a week, that method really does add extra time and key presses which
you don't need.
People on here have made an argument in later messages that this doesn't
take long to do, but if you work in a busy office all day long, trust me it
causes fatigue, and you don't need it. It's just more things to think about.
Especially if the keyboard you use isn't particularly good for using all the
time.
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: OE Silences
Hi guys,
I'm aware that those of you who prefer your method of going through your
new
messages the way you've described (deleting an open message from within
it
in order to automatically open the next message) may just dismiss this
thought, and that's okay. But I've used a simpler, more manual method
forever and am perfectly happy with it, and so I wouldn't even know if
this
particular glitch was happening if I were to install the latest update.
And that is, when I am in my OE Inbox and its list of received messages, I
open any message I wish to read same as anyone does. Then, no matter
whether
I want to delete it, or keep it around for a while before deciding what to
do with it, or move it to one of the subfolders I've created under Inbox
in
the tree folder view, I press Escape and it closes. Now, if I want to
delete
it, I press the delete key. If I want to move it somewhere for storage, I
press Control alt V and move it. If I want to keep it in my Inbox for a
while to look at again later, I leave it be. And then I arrow down one
step
to the next unopened message, and press Enter to open it.
Now, if this sounds like an awful lot of trouble to those of you who are
saying your favorite feature doesn't work well enough anymore, it isn't
any
trouble at all. A single flick of the finger on this key, and that key,
and
that's all. Fast as lightning. And no problems with whether Jaws is
performing that automated feature nicely or not.
That's all. I don't want to start some kind of controversy over bout how
there are a million ways to do things in Windows or Jaws, or whatever it
is
that gets people flaming you when you describe an alternate method of
doing
something. I'm just saying, a person could do this, if they felt like it.
Let a hundred flowers bloom in the courtyard, and all that. Two extra
points
for anyone who recognizes the reference. :-)
Peace, love and Happy Cinco de Mayo.----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicky Collins" <v-collins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: OE Silences
I'm not sure if you saw my message of last night where I talked about a
similar problem with OE. So, just in case, I'll ask to make sure. When
you
get that silence after hitting the delete key, are you waiting several
seconds, say fifteen or twenty, to see if speech does start?
Vicky Collins
v-collins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <A.Spratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: OE Silences
I've had few of the problems some JAWS users have reported with JAWS 8,
except for little annoyances like JAWS saying buttons aren't available
when,
in fact, they are. However, this latest JAWS update has created a new
problem in OE. When I go down a list of incoming messages, beginning with
the earliest received, JAWS goes silent after the second or third message
I
delete. I'm referring to the process of reading a message, deleting it,
and
having the next one open. To get JAWS speaking again, I find I need to
press alt-tab out of the message before going back in.
This experience of JAWS going silent is erratic. Sometimes JAWS does read
the next message.
One more factor. When I go into the task manager with alt-control-delete,
I'm finding that this updated version of JAWS seems to be using even more
memory than previous JAWS 8 updates. After I close JAWS to get its memory
usage back to a basic level, the OE silence problem occurs less
frequently,
though it's still present.
Agreed, I should report the problem to FS, but I'm wondering if others are
experiencing this same behavior with JAWS 8.0.2107.
A.S.
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Hi guys,I'm aware that those of you who prefer your method of going through your new messages the way you've described (deleting an open message from within it
in order to automatically open the next message) may just dismiss this thought, and that's okay. But I've used a simpler, more manual methodforever and am perfectly happy with it, and so I wouldn't even know if this
particular glitch was happening if I were to install the latest update. And that is, when I am in my OE Inbox and its list of received messages, Iopen any message I wish to read same as anyone does. Then, no matter whether
I want to delete it, or keep it around for a while before deciding what todo with it, or move it to one of the subfolders I've created under Inbox in the tree folder view, I press Escape and it closes. Now, if I want to delete
it, I press the delete key. If I want to move it somewhere for storage, I press Control alt V and move it. If I want to keep it in my Inbox for awhile to look at again later, I leave it be. And then I arrow down one step
to the next unopened message, and press Enter to open it. Now, if this sounds like an awful lot of trouble to those of you who aresaying your favorite feature doesn't work well enough anymore, it isn't any trouble at all. A single flick of the finger on this key, and that key, and
that's all. Fast as lightning. And no problems with whether Jaws is performing that automated feature nicely or not. That's all. I don't want to start some kind of controversy over bout howthere are a million ways to do things in Windows or Jaws, or whatever it is that gets people flaming you when you describe an alternate method of doing
something. I'm just saying, a person could do this, if they felt like it.Let a hundred flowers bloom in the courtyard, and all that. Two extra points
for anyone who recognizes the reference. :-)Peace, love and Happy Cinco de Mayo.----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicky Collins" <v-collins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:09 PM Subject: Re: OE Silences I'm not sure if you saw my message of last night where I talked about asimilar problem with OE. So, just in case, I'll ask to make sure. When you
get that silence after hitting the delete key, are you waiting several seconds, say fifteen or twenty, to see if speech does start? Vicky Collins v-collins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <A.Spratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:37 PM Subject: OE Silences I've had few of the problems some JAWS users have reported with JAWS 8,except for little annoyances like JAWS saying buttons aren't available when,
in fact, they are. However, this latest JAWS update has created a new problem in OE. When I go down a list of incoming messages, beginning withthe earliest received, JAWS goes silent after the second or third message I delete. I'm referring to the process of reading a message, deleting it, and
having the next one open. To get JAWS speaking again, I find I need to press alt-tab out of the message before going back in. This experience of JAWS going silent is erratic. Sometimes JAWS does read the next message. One more factor. When I go into the task manager with alt-control-delete, I'm finding that this updated version of JAWS seems to be using even more memory than previous JAWS 8 updates. After I close JAWS to get its memoryusage back to a basic level, the OE silence problem occurs less frequently,
though it's still present. Agreed, I should report the problem to FS, but I'm wondering if others are experiencing this same behavior with JAWS 8.0.2107. A.S. -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfwIf you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the
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- Re: OE Silences
- From: Yardbird
- OE control key help
- From: Jerry Hathaway
- OE Silences
- From: Adrian Spratt
- Re: OE Silences
- From: Vicky Collins
- Re: OE Silences
- From: Yardbird