Re: Not getting Character creation with new Jaws update
- From: Yardbird <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:25:51 -0700
Bruce,
I don't know anything about the Internet having something to do with this. I
do know that there's a function in Word itself that offers a whole rich
trove of symbols-- foreign language marks and special characters,
mathematical and scientific symbols, a huge assortment that,if it looks
anything like it used to, is a spread of many items arranged either by table
or by tab page. It's right there in Word. And there may be some Jaws power
user who actually knows how to display this function and manipulate it. But
it was so catch-as-catch-can for me early on with Jaws that I gave up even
trying, and was delighted when someone on a list like this one explained the
Jaws feature that would bring up a limited but for me very adequate list of
symbols you could insert beginning with the keystroke Insert Num Row 4,
which I mentioned in my first post on this subject. my problem has been not
that I'm unaware of that feature in jaws, but simply that it won't work for
me in Word 2000 using Jaws 10, basic version or latest update. I can bring
up the list, so I'm not saying the key combo doesn't work anymore. But if I
arrow to a character I'd like to insert at the cursor location and press
enter,nothing at all is inserted. This has nothing to do, either, with
wishing I knew the coding trick that will make jaws speak in a foreign
language when it encounters one. I have Jaws set up for that, and it works
fine. This has nothing to do with that. I'm not even sure whether if I could
insert the proper characters at certain points that Jaws would recognize the
word as foreign and switch languages to read it. And I dont' really care
very much, although that would certainly be cool. but it's not what I've
been asking about.reqally , althoughlangage
I hope this clarifies something.
From: "Bruce Toews" <Bruce@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Not getting Character creation with new Jaws update
I'm not sure where an actual list exists on the Net. I got mine from a
book on Word 2002.
Bruce
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:56:37 -0700, "Mike & Barbara"
<mb69mach1@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> Hi Bruce,
>
> I for one never knew that there are keystrokes to generate symbols.
> Would
> you please tell me & others where we can find a list of these keystrokes?
> Yours or or the help from anyone else with this matter will be greatly
> appreciated. Thanks much, take care.
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Toews" <Bruce@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Not getting Character creation with new Jaws update
>
>
> Insert+numrow 4 brings up a list of some common special symbols. This
> list is by no means exhaustive, and if one wishes to use these symbols
> on some kind of a regular basis, one would do well to learn the
> keystrokes within Word to generate them. As one example,
> control+apostrophe, followed by the letter e, yields an e-acute.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:09:55 +0200, "Negoslav Sabev" <negi4a@xxxxxxxxx>
> said:
> > Insert+4 from the number row?
> >
> > Negoslav
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gene" <gwilson@xxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:52 PM
> > Subject: RE: Not getting Character creation with new Jaws update
> >
> >
> > > Joel,
> > >
> > > There is a key combination for a JAWS dictionary of symbols from which
> > > you
> > > may copy the ones you need into your document. Unfortunately, I use
> > > it
> > > so
> > > rarely I don't remember what that silly combination is.
> > >
> > > With regard to your pronunciation problem, there is, I believe, a
> > > setting
> > > in
> > > JAWS whereby it will recognize languages, other than English,
> > > automatically.
> > >
> > > I hope I've been a little helpful.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf
> > > Of Yardbird
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:31 PM
> > > To: JFW List
> > > Subject: Not getting Character creation with new Jaws update
> > >
> > > After reading the list of bug fixes and improvements in this update on
> > > the
> > > FS Web page about it, I was looking forward to again being able to
> > > create
> > > characters with diacritical marks and other things like the inverted
> > > question mark and inverted exclamation point in Spanish, in my word
> > > 2000.
> > > Sadly, what I expected hasn't come to pass. My attempts to produce an
> > > accented lowercase a result in nothing at all, just like before I
> > > installed
> > > the update. Yes, of course I restarted when the installation was
> > > complete,
> > > as instructed by the installation wizard.
> > >
> > > Could this be because my way of creating such characters is to use the
> > > Insert num row 4 command to get a list of such things to choose from
> > > and
> > > insert in the text? I haven't used the actual Word character function
> > > for
> > > years. It was difficult enough for me when I could see it, and with
> > > Jaws
> > > I
> > > never could figure it out at all, so I really welcomed it when someone
> > > on
> > > a
> > > list like this told everyone about the Insert 4 deal.
> > >
> > > For comparison, I can and do create such characters when I'm typing an
> > > email
> > > in my Outlook Express 6. Let me try that right here and see if it
> > > still
> > > works. I'll type the Spanish word for pharmacy with an accented a in
> > > the
> > > second syllable. or try to, anyway. Farmácia. yep. I got myself the a
> > > acute
> > > that I wanted. In Spanish, it would now have the accent on that second
> > > syllable and the last part would sound like see ya, not shuh. even
> > > though
> > > I
> > > can't figure out how to trick jaws into saying it right, at the
> > > moment.
> > > So
> > > Insert A still exists in this updated version. But it still won't work
> > > for
> > > me in Word anymore, which I think it used to do in Version 9 but gave
> > > up
> > > in
> > > Version 10. Maybe I misremember?
> > >
> > > Any helpful information will be appreciated. yes, I stick with Word
> > > 2000
> > > on
> > > purpose, for certain reasons, so if that's the problem, that Jaws 10
> > > doesn't
> > > fully "support" Word 2000, I'll have to let it go.
> > >
> > > Joel
> > >
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