Re: New features JFW 6.0 that I dislike

  • From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:28:53 -0800

A couple of corrections.  Sorry about typing too fast on too little coffee:

1.  it's "reprehensible," not "reprehensive."
2.  This sentence needed the word "fixed," which I neglected to type even 
though I was thinking it:
Would that you could get a manufacturing flaw in the brakes or fuel system 
of your Camry fixed as easily as you can download an update for the current 
release of Jaws.

Thanks for your forebearance, all.
Daniel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: New features JFW 6.0 that I dislike


Hello.  This isn't what I said.  Please look below.  You are expressing a
conspiracy theory, which is not the way I would account for the release of
imperfect software.  I'm not saying I love Microsoft uncritically, or love
Freedom Scientific uncritically, but this isn't the actual logic involved.

One of many points to be aware of:  When a version of Jaws is released with
bugs, it's free updates that attempt to correct them.  It is *not* that you
have to spring for the next paid version (upgrade) in order to fix a
malfunction.  Not in most cases.

Here is an example that is at least partially analogous.   In the 1950s,
when the Big Three American automakers became notorious among socially and
economically critical thinkers and writers for pushing Americans to
continually trade in their cars for new models, this tactic for corporate
enrichment was not accomplished by sending out Fords, Pontiacs and Plymouths
riddled with manufacturing defects that would, at the least, inconvenience a
driver or, at worst, potentially cause a crash.  By which I mean a *real*
crash.  With broken steel  and glass, blood, twisted bodies.  No.

It was done by racing each other to put new models on the nation's showroom
floors each September that most often distinguished themselves from previous
models in the same product line by cosmetic changes like differently shaped
fenders, new colors, and so forth, with relatively minor mechanical changes
to critical components like engines, transmissions, suspensions, and brakes.
It was a reprehensive and greedy practice, and it made a company like
General Motors economically powerful beyond anything that had been dreamed
of to that time, or at least since the days of powerful steel, petroleum and
railroad barons,  to the point where there was a saying in government
circles that went , "What's good for GM is good for America."  But that all
was not achieved by producing and shipping severely flawed product and then
smilingly telling the customer to trade in his or her new car to upgrade, or
face being stranded on the highway or killed in a collision.
The update process that helps to fix and patch a flawed software release is
free, for one thing, and is comparable not to the sales of new products but
rather a safety recall.  Would that you could get a manufacturing flaw in
the brakes or fuel system of your Camry as easily as you can download an
update for the current release of Jaws.

So, when I see Alan Greenspan quoted in the New York times saying "What's
good for Freedom Scientific is good for America," then I'll reconsider this
explanation.  Until then, as we say, hope this helps.

thanks for everything,
Daniel


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: New features JFW 6.0 that I dislike


it's usually done on purpose so you'll buy the next update. though I don't
find a lot of issues most people do with jaws.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: New features JFW 6.0 that I dislike


Not meaning to be sarcastic, it's worth noting that almost *no* software is
ever released in a form anywhere near perfection.  That's just taken for
granted, I think, and then come the updates to patch and debug the flaws of
the official release.  Just the way things are done,I think.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Grossoehme" <davegross1@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: New features JFW 6.0 that I dislike


Hi Guys:  I believe that this subject was spoken about right after JFW6.0
hit the market.  It seems like another program that wasn't completely tested
before it hit the market.  Unfortunately, it just one more thing to set us
back from the sighted user of a computer.
Your Friend
Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <philwh@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: New features JFW 6.0 that I dislike


> Hi.
> I am not the orginal person that started this thread,
> but this is my experience and what the techs told me.
> any change in your computer requires a new key.
> I added an additional hard drive. i had
> to reauthorize.
> I replaced a bad floppy drive, another key gone.
> I temporarily put a different sound card in
> to test it, another key.
> by the way, jfw doesn't tell you what has prompted the reauthorization,
> it just says that you must run the proceedure or
> run in demo mode.
> this problem has happened to me even if I haven't changed anything
> that I know of.
> I have had to call fs 3 times so far to
> have them fix my keys.
> the last time, the tech told me to buy a dongle
> to solve the problem, more money for fs of course.
> phil
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 04:03:07PM -0500, Jerry Neufeld wrote:
>> Hello Dick.
>>
>> I was curious about FS's verification procedure. Do you happen to know
>> what
>> they consider a significcant change in the machine? And if they do come
>> up
>> with what they view a significant change, I assume they allow eloquence
>> to
>> tell you so? If I ask these questions, it is because one of my machines
>> will
>> no longer talk once the desktop comes up, or at least, I think it's up. I
>> will know tomorrow when an assistant confirms my hypothesis that it is
>> the
>> new SoundBlaster audigy platinum that wants registering before it lets me
>> proceed.
>>
>> In any event, any info you have on this issue would be interesting to a
>> lot
>> of us.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jerry
>> jerry.neufeld@xxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "AB7HW Dick Lee Chrisman" <ab7hw@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 3:50 PM
>> Subject: New features JFW 6.0 that I dislike
>>
>>
>> > One new feature that started with JFW 6.0 is the many times JFW wants
>> > to
>> > perform a Verification!  It seems like JFW 6.0 seems to think I have
>> > made
>> > a
>> > change to MY COMPUTER and I under line MY COMPUTER, I have had to have
>> > my
>> > Authorization Keys up dated 10 times or more so far!
>> > So I have to go out and have a email sent to Freedom Scientific to
>> > request
>> > new Keys, in 24 hours or so they do up date my number of Keys, but if I
>> > do
>> > not do this in time I will be running in Demo Mode while being a Legal
>> > paid
>> > up JFW user with additional SMA's paid for!
>> > Freedom Scientific does not argue about providing new Keys, to their
>> > credit!
>> > I wrote Freedom Scientific and ask about, but of course they have never
>> > heard of this complaint or problem?
>> > Today I rebooted or should I say shut off the computer and restarted
>> > and
>> > both times it ask for a new Verification and of course removed one Key
>> > for
>> > each occurrence, Poop!
>> > I hope Freedom Scientific finds this to be as big of a Pain to them as
>> > it
>> > is
>> > for me and fixes this problem!
>> > I don't think their new way of Verifying users is well thought out, so
>> > that
>> > is my only complaint on the new JFW 6.0!
>> > I look forward to their correcting this dilemma!
>> > Dick Chrisman
>> >
>> >
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