More to the point, why not now just develop a version which works with usual
Windows controls and does not require any scripting or work-around. It is,
after all why Windows has standard controls which are intended to work in
It is possible to retrofit a building with ramps around by the loading dock for wheelchair accessibility and many consider themselves generous for doing so but it remains more inclusive and always preferable to construct barrier free at the outset. I would have thought that the low vision community would have been an obvious market from the beginning.
What ever else one generously feels about the effort it remains detours around obstructions.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: New Version of audibleManager and New Scripts
this is wonderful to hear! You know, the lines of communication within
Audible aren't very good sometimes, and this is one of those cases. I have
spent literally hours with second-level tech support people over the past
week or so, and we've discussed the issues a lot-- especially that
pernicious Details view-- and none of them was aware that any of what you
describe was in progress. They knew nothing at all about it. You might
recommend to your contacts that they not be quite so secretive about the
state of their awareness of the accessibility problems and leave us to
founder, including their own tech support people. Which isn't only an
inconvenience but worse, bad public relations. Another result, especially
on the Blind Audible Listeners mailing list, is that people try earnestly to
help each other with what they feel are the best suggestions and workaround
strategies and tie themselves in knots and even wind up squabbling over
which of them/us is the more hardy blind computer user, the super blink, and
who is faint-hearted and lazy, unwilling to do acrobatics with the Jaws
cursor and give up full accessibility and not complain, and all this gets
really unpleasant, when all the while, Audible could have made it known not
just on the site, because it often happens that people faced with an ongoing
issue like the Audible Manager problems, discussing it together online,
assume that if one of them knew it was addressed in the FAQ or "knowledge
base" material on the site, he or she would surely tell everyone. So at
least the tech support folks ought to get bulletins updating them that these
efforts are ongoing.
In any case, I look forward to exploring these new developments, and thanks
again for your efforts.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Gould" <gould100@xxxxxxx>
To: "JFW User List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 5:40 AM
Subject: New Version of audibleManager and New Scripts
To Everyone Interested in AudibleManager:
I have been working very closely with the folks at audible since mid-December to improve the accessibility of the newest version of Audible Manager. Their developer even came to my house a couple of times so I could show him what was needed to make AudibleManager as accessible as possible. The newest version, 18.104.22.168 has just been released and is available at the audible site.
Furthermore, I have written new scripts for this version of AudibleManager
which have just been posted on the FS website. All of the information
needed to download the new version of AudibleManager and the scripts is
shown in the FAQ which I have copied below. Please note that these scripts
are for JAWS 7.0 only. They may not work properly for earlier versions of
I wish to commend audible for their interest and dedication to making their
software accessible. Please support this company as they have worked very
hard to give us what we need.
*******The following FAQ has been posted to the Freedom Scientific web site: <http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/BulletinView.cfm?QC=1035>http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/BulletinView.cfm?QC=1035
Bulletin Type: FAQ
Date Posted: 03/10/2006
Product Name: JAWS
Can I use JAWS with AudibleManager version 5?
Yes. Audible Version 5 has been specifically designed with screen reader access in mind so that all functions can be accessed with the keyboard and all controls can be accessed with a screen reader. New JAWS scripts have been created to optimize the experience with Audible 5. The scripts provided for download from this FAQ are for use with JAWS 7.0 only.
1. Download the file, AudibleManager_JAWS70.zip from the following location and extract it to an easily accessible folder on your computer: <ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/AudibleManager_JAWS70.zip>ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/AudibleManager_JAWS70.zip
2. Extract the contents of the downloaded .zip file to a folder on your computer. Contents should include eight files: AudibleManager.jcf AudibleManager.jdf AudibleManager.jgf AudibleManager.jkm AudibleManager.jsd AudibleManager.JSS MANAGER.JSH MANAGER.JSM
3. Navigate to that folder, select all the files, and press CTRL+C to copy them to the Clipboard.
4. Open the Start menu and choose Programs or All Programs, JAWS 7.0, Explore JAWS, Explore My Settings.
5. Press CTRL+V to paste the files into the folder.
AudibleManager 5 (version 22.214.171.124) can be downloaded from <http://download.audible.com/AM50/ActiveSetupRSDK.exe>http://download.audible.com/AM50/ActiveSetupRSDK.exe
Best regards, Ken E-mail address: gould100@xxxxxxx Please visit my store's home page at http://www.audionexus.com
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