Re: Need instructions for Winamp 5.08
- From: "Sean McMahon" <smcmahon@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:02:33 -0700
The thing he was describing is the preferences menu for changing winamp options.
Your thinking of a help system, something which works completely different.
When you are on the tree view, hit tab to see the options available for that
tree level. Opening the tree view will allow you to see more options in that
tree. For th8ings like the plugins, you have a tree view that has inside of it
input. You go to input and use right arrow to open it. Then you hit tab and
will find a listview showing you the specific input pluggins. Selecting one of
these pluggins from the listview you can then hit tab and find the configure
button for that particular item. Maybe if you can give me an example of
something specific you'd like to change in preferences, I could give a better
example of how to navigate. I really think your problem may be the skin.
Classic skin only.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: Need instructions for Winamp 5.08
I'm sorry to say this just doesn't work for me as you describe. Maybe
there's something wrong with my Jaws 6.0. I hit control P, I hear that I'm
in Preferences, but as I try to move around with my arrow keys or my tab
key, all I seem to be able to "see" is an item about skins, a couple of
options I can't figure out in terms of what order they're in or what I'm
doing. I can only find a Close button with my tab key. I tried to use the
arrow keys as if it were the tree list you describe, but still I hear only a
couple of things about skins, which change so that I don't know where I am,
and that's all.
what you seem to be describing is something like a two-pane help file with a
tree list on the left of topics or books and a pane on the right to move
into (in a standard arrangement, F6 would accomplsih this, but I know that
isn't the deal here) to for the text in each book, or something like that?
Well, that's what I'm imagining, but no dice.
I'll just get up tomorrow and read the basic manual I saved to disk as a
text file from the ACB Radio site, and see if that clarifies something.
Thanks again.
instructinasic or maybeershaps.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Toews" <water_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: Need instructions for Winamp 5.08
The program is extremely screen-reader-friendly. Hit control+p to get into
preferences. Explore these preferences by moving up and down the tree
view. Tabbing around from any item in that tree view will give you options
associated with that, and you can open some items and get more options.
Bruce
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Yardbird wrote:
> Moti,
> Thanks, but I do understand these things already. I'm just really
> uncomfortable not being able to simply explore the entire preferences menu
> and everything, and make settings the way I'd like to, selectively. I'm
> aware that the menu structure isn't a conventional Windows menu line,
> because I've read that and also because it's nearly impossible to figure
> out
> by doing the usual thing of pressing alt and expecting to be put in the
> menu
> line.
>
> If this thing is so beloved by so many blind screen reader jockeys, how do
> they achieve even some familiarity with its functions, let alone mastery?
>
> I'm really perplexed. I'm perfectly able to click on an .mp3 file and
> play
> it with Windows Media Player or Real Player, too, and even though I also
> am
> mystified by those programs' semi-accessible menus and inscrutable (to me)
> functions, they're far less obscure than Winamp appears to be. This is
> like
> playing music files with a rock or a candy bar or something.
>
> Ack. Sorry. Just frustrated.
>
> From: "Moti Azrad Musician & Piano-Tuner" <motia@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Need instructions for Winamp 5.08
>
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> I'm also new with winamp5.08 but I can say some things.
> Open winamp 5.08
> press: ctrl+p and then make sure that you are using the classic skin.
> If not, and you use the modern one, arrow to classic and enter on it.
> I think that it's enough and you can use every music file that you wish
> and
> winamp will be the first to jump and open it.
>
> I hope it helps you a little
>
> Moti
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Jaws Lite"
> <Jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:14 AM
> Subject: Need instructions for Winamp 5.08
>
>
>> I just downloaded winamp 5.08 from the winamp4theblind site. And, as I
>> remembered from an earlier attempt to add Winamp to my software arsenal,
>> I
>> can't for the life of me figure out how to operate it except to play an
>> .mp3
>> file and use the z, c and x keys for play, pause and stop. But I want to
>> explore the menus to get an overview of its functions and adjustments,
>> and
>> every time I try to do that I wind up in trouble. Once I somehow changed
>> the interface so that it enlarged (I could see this happen) and then kept
>> saying I was in the Library, and I couldn't understand the few controls
>> that
>> spoke when I tabbed around, and I couldn't exit the area, nor exit the
>> program, as Alt F4 didn't do anything. Another time, I got stuck in that
>> library thing again, but Alt F4 exited for me.
>>
>> Anyway, I even managed to blunder my way into the help file, but I
>> couldn't
>> navigate this worth a damn, either, no matter how I tried to use what
>> sounded like a tree or book structure, use F6 to switch panes, or
>> anything.
>> It was a Jaws nightmare.
>>
>> I don't recall seeing a link for just some instructions for screen reader
>> users on that winamp4the blind site, don't know why. Can anyone point me
>> to
>> some way I could read up on how to master this program, which for some
>> reason is so popular among blind users?
>>
>> thanks,
>> daniel
>>
>>
>>
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