keith not totally true. first the power of this list is not weather f s is listening or not, its the fact many people who make up and decide who gets what in rehab are often on these list. if they start recommending another screen reader then jfw will feel the heat. and i can tell you that at one point telesensory and vert where the market leaders, and while it took a long time they did tumble eventually. by the way, thats not what i want, i simply want a few bug fixes in the 6.1 patch. in ten days 2 fixes on the way. if they keep that up for another 20 days, they may be able to fix 4 more bugs. 6 bug fixes and the addition of dec talk drive support for u s b. if they do that then it would be considerred not a bad patch for a .1 version. especially if its stable. i do not expect jfw 6.1 to fix all of their issues, but lets hope eric is not stopping with just 2 fixes. bill -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx