If you doubt this post just wait until you get the next Microbloat "critical" update and then find that some of your setting have changed. Having spent many, many years in the Hallowed Halls of the mainframe computer world I am just amazed that we ever get the micros to work. You need to remember that the mainframe computers usually had a staff of many guru types just to keep it up and running. Now, in my opinion, the complexity of the modern micro is every bit as complex and we expect them to just run and run and run with little or no intervention. Cy, the Ancient Okie... . -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 9:56 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Beware of Chicken little One of the problems I see here is an unwillingness to blame any other source than FS for problems. It needs to be remembered that we are working with a platform that is at best shaky, and that changes constantly. Then there is the problem of drivers and other types of software updates that all affect the way Jaws or any other software runs. One of the first things I learned as a programmer is that when you change one thing in a program you make ten other changes else where in the same program. And these changes are not always visible immediately. The same is true for entire systems. One printer or monitor driver change can change the RAM allocations, registry layout, processor sequence and many other things. And there is no way of telling how these changes will affect your particular system till they are implemented and used. So there is really no one to blame. It's all a giant balancing act that sometimes looses balance. Thanks; Gene On MSN and Yahoo - guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Kessler" <jessesgirl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Beware of Chicken little > Good thread, food for thought. I do not know any other business that > works > like that of the computer business, or that works that way so obviously. > Those of us who purchase specialty products for exorbitantly high prices > and are on limited incomes have a right to vent once in a while. Then > there are those who cannot afford to support the equipment purchased for > them by Rehab. in the first place; these guys have the same problem. It > seems that specialty products usually have the right idea when it comes to > providing a product that meets the need; but the product falls short in > quality control and or reliability. Products that are adapted seem to lack > in fully meeting the need in general. The area that comes to mind is that > of small pocket note takers. > As long as Microsoft keeps changing their platform, then companies have to > spend more to accommodate those changes. I am sure that Microsoft is > helping companies who they will later swallow up, and our specialty > products will be watered down. > > Although this thread did not answer any specific jaws question, it did > make us back up from our microscopes and look at the bigger picture and > that can be good. > > Debbie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gene > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:21 AM > Subject: Re: Beware of Chicken little > > > Amen. > > > > Thanks; Gene > > On MSN and Yahoo - guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karl Smith" <karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:17 AM > Subject: Beware of Chicken little > > > > Hello Folks, > > > > Recently, as you know, there has been far to much traffic on this > list > about > the death of Freedom Scientific, and/or its lack of > service, and/or care > > about its customers, and/or its lack of support for one or another > piece > > of > > hardware. First of all let me say that I think FS has some good things > > and > > bad things about it. Sometimes it comes through with flying colors on > an > > issue and sometimes it falls short. This is just the way things happen > in > > the world. I also do not mean to dispute that some people have had bad > > experiences with FS or at least they perceive that they have which is > the > > same thing in the end. > > > > Bruce commented earlier that there are some700 members on this list. > > During > > this recent flurry of the sky is falling messages I have noticed that, > as > > usual, most of the more than 100 messages I have seen have come from > > perhaps > > ten people. I have seen at times a run of messages from person a then > > person b and then person a again. This sometimes makes things appear > to > > be > > much worse than they are. About a month ago there was a run of > messages > > about all the problems people were having with version 6.1 and someone > > wrote > > that eighty percent of the messages they had seen were about the > problems > > with 6.1 and that because of this they weren't going to load it. I > just > > want to remind people that if you see a hundred messages and eighty of > > them > > deal with one problem be sure that you pay attention to how many of the > > eighty are from the same few people. I'm not trying to discount or > deny > > that problems can and do exist with JAWS and FS as I know they do. I > > simply > > want to warn you not to be as Chicken Little and think the sky is > falling > > every time someone says that it is. End of sermon. > > > > Karl > > > > ____________________ > > > > Karl Smith > > Access Technology Specialist > > Axis > > 4304 South El Camino St. > > Taylorsville, Utah 84119 > > > > Phone: 866-824-7885 > > Fax: 866-824-7885 > > E-mail: karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > No one will ever go broke underestimating the intelligence of the human > > race. > > > > - H. L. Menkin > > > > -- > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject > line. > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, > or > > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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