RE: Mmessage being before the message itself in the message body - was - Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey

I am using outlook and do not have any message being before the message, so
I don't think it has anything to do with outlook trying to get one to change
email clients.

Take care,

John

 

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 9:17 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Mmessage being before the message itself in the message body - was
- Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey

 

Hi Yardbird,

Do you also have Microsoft Outlook on your computer?  If you don't, you may
not get the message word in front of your own messages.  Microsoft Outlook
is begging or waiting for the chance to beg to be one's email client!  

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Flor Lynch <mailto:florlync@xxxxxx>  

To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:09 AM

Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey

 

This 'message' business has been going on with earlier versions of JAWS in
use as well, maybe even as far back as JAWS5, possibly before.  It could be
a freelists html-to-text conversion thing, as well.  For now, I don't think
it a JAWS/HTML issue; though possibly the presence [and non-convergence with
OE when it is used] of Outlook and its html has a role in it.  Heck, it's
almost the same as Outlook Express putting "Original Message" before the
message you're replying to.  Anyway, everybody sure gets the 'message'!  

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Rick Harmon <mailto:rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  

To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:48 AM

Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey

 

I use HTML for my messages in OE.  I believe and can't be certain though 
that it has something to do with JAWS and the way its now handleing HTML 
code.  At the top of HTML pages you will see JAWS read the title that is 
coded into the HTML page.  I suspect that message is the title of OE's HTML 
coded messages.  But it's really just a guess at this point.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


Rick,

First of all, you said it!  Narrator is no fun to use, at least for me.
It's really horrible to mess with.  I don't understand half of what it says,
and I don't know the basic commands for navigating or doing stuff.  So let's
go, FS, and fix this bug!

Also, Rick, may as well ask:  That word "message" is at the top of *your*
every post.  So, then, can you account for its presence?  Do you have
something in your email program that heads every one of your outgoing
messages with the word "Message," for some reason?

Thanks.
mee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Harmon"
<rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


MessageAlex,

I hope FS is able to solve this problem.  It's not always convenient to use
narrator instead of JAWS.

Rick

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Alex Stone
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:24 PM
  Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


  Rick, Don't worry about it, I'd have been saying exactly the same things
as you were if it wasn't me having the problem.
  Cheers.
  Alex
  -----Original Message-----
  From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Rick Harmon
  Sent: 26 November 2006 00:05
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


  lol, its ok, I swore up and down that it wasn't a JAWS issue.  Just think
how I feel now.

  Rick

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Betsey Doane
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:03 PM
    Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


    Wow--I wrote my post before I saw this; just back from Thanksgiving
holiday and going through my first pass of over 200 messages :-) Betsey
Doane



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    From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rick Harmon
    Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 6:58 PM
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


    Well my apologies then, it must be something to do with the way JAWS is
handleing the keyboard now.  Very puzzleing but if narater worked then it's
definately a JAWS issue.

    Rick

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Alex Stone
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 6:27 PM
      Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


      Rick, You are indeed quite correct, doing it with narrator worked a
treat, and I now have the shortcut key I wanted all along ctrl+shift+j.
      I'll send freedom Scientific a message about it.
      Cheers.
      Alex
      -----Original Message-----
      From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Rick Harmon
      Sent: 25 November 2006 17:41
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


      Alex,

      Try unloading JAWS 8 with Insert + F4 and using narrator with Windows
key + U  and see if you can change the properties successfully.  If you can
then JAWS has something to do with it.  IF not then its something else.

      Rick

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Alex Stone
        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 8:48 AM
        Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


        John, Yes, many many times!
        Cheers.
        Alex
        -----Original Message-----
        From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of John Brewer
        Sent: 24 November 2006 23:55
        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


        Alex have you tried another ShortCut Key?
        John
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Alex Stone
          To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 5:13 PM
          Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


          Rick, Have you been following this thread.  I'm sick and tired of
the number of times I've had to explain that I've checked all the desktop
icons to make sure nothing has the keystroke assigned to it.  I've also used
shortcut detective from the jfwlite website to determine that there is no
shortcut on my system that has the ctrl+shift+j keystroke assigned to it.
          Cheers.
          Alex
          -----Original Message-----
          >From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Rick Harmon
          Sent: 24 November 2006 22:54
          To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


          I disagree,  JAWS has absolutely nothing to do with properties on
a desktop icon.  That is either a MS issue or someone hasn't cleared the
contro+Alt+j shortcut from another icon on the desktop.

          We can't blame every single issue to JAWS.

          Rick

            ----- Original Message ----- 
            >From: Alex Stone
            To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 5:45 PM
            Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


            Rich, I'm coming to the conclusion as others already have that
it must be a jaws problem.
            Cheers.
            Alex
            -----Original Message-----
            From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Richard Sherman
            Sent: 24 November 2006 22:38
            To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


            Hi Alex,
            Gave it a shot and came up short. Darn. Will give it more
thought.

            Rich
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Alex Stone
              To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
              Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 2:19 PM
              Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


              Richard, Unfortunately I find that that doesn't work either.
              Cheers.
              Alex



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