Hi; A point on mallicious software, or malware for short. Pretty much any software can become malware, intentionally or not. It really depends on the integrity and professionalism of the developer. I could write a program that whilst running, secretly causes damage to your system. Of course, I wouldn't do this, I value integrity and honesty with users too much to even consider doing something like that, but some developers don't. So, when considering software, and more importantly where to get it from, in the case of non-commercial software, you have to consider whether you trust the source. This should be both the creater of the software, and anyone who's been part of the distribution chain for non-commercial software. Leaving aside the ethical and moral aspects of software piracy, I consider it to be a highly dangerous pastime to indulge in. It's possible that someone could have hacked the binary executable files for the installer or the application itself, something they have to do any way in order to bypass any form of authorisation. You don't know that they haven't modified that behaviour of those executable files to damage your system when they're run. Unfortunately, most times, you only find out once it's too late, you've run the executable and your system has become permenantly damaged, maybe even the processers been blown up. So, I would strongly encourage everyone to consider whether anyone who created the software, or who has had the opportunity to modify it during the distribution chain, would consider doing such mallicious acts. In reality, it's only by being concious of what's going on around us, what has the potential to be harmful, and being vigilant, that we can avoid malware. Will Pearson Microsoft MVP (Visual Developer/VC++) For more information about the Microsoft MV P Program, go to: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 5:25 PM Subject: Re: Running Jaws First... > I saw it on a list of dangerous apps. I don't know what kind of spyware is > in it. > > Johnnie Apple Seed > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean C. Turley-Sinclair" <jcts@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 11:59 AM > Subject: Re: Running Jaws First... > > > I thought Spy Sweeper was a recommended program. What kind of spy ware does > it have in it? > JeanAt 10:32 AM 12/6/2004 -0500, you wrote: > >spy sweeper has spy ware in it. > > > >Johnnie Apple Seed > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jean C. Turley-Sinclair" <jcts@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 9:51 AM > >Subject: Running Jaws First... > > > > > >After I installed Spy Sweeper and ran a scan, the next time I turned on my > >computer JAWS did not come up and start talking. I forgot where I'm > >supposed to go to check "run Jaws first". Could someone please tell me > >where to go so I can make sure this checkbox is checked. > >Thanks, Jean > > > > > >-- > >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > >Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > >the > >way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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