RE: Major problems with the latest Jaws and Firefox 4.0 and Google Reader

Chill mate!
I am using Esset smart security suite.

David Truong.

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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Saturday, 14 May 2011 11:53 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Major problems with the latest Jaws and Firefox 4.0 and Google
Reader

What "virus program"? Give us something useful to work with, please.

Dave Carlson
Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Truong" <davidtruong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 05:47
Subject: RE: Major problems with the latest Jaws and Firefox 4.0 and Google

Reader


Hi,

I had the same problems with Jaws 12 being really unresponsive.  It turns
out that my virus program was slowing it down.  I just told my virus
program to exclude all FS directories when doing scan's etc and now it's
just as responsive as Jaws ever was.

David Truong.

Phone: 0400 557 511

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davidtruong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of CrisMunoz54
Sent: Friday, 13 May 2011 9:08 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Major problems with the latest Jaws and Firefox 4.0 and Google
Reader

I have the same issue with Jaws going silent and the alt+tab issue. My
computer was getting so slow that I was even thinking of taking it in to be
looked at, but I loaded the JFW 11.0.7467 instead and the difference was
like night and day. Not only does Firefox work fine (the Application Mode
On
thing not withstanding), but my pc jus tfeels a whole lot crisper and
responsive. Jaws 12 was slowing my machine down like bloatware would. Not
just in the browsers either. Everything in general.

More importantly, Firefox isn't crashing every 20 or 30 minutes on me now.
Of course, going back to Jaws 11 means I have to deal with some issues that
had been fixed with later JFW releases, but man, Jaws 12 was givign me
headaches. At least I know it's not just me then.

I remember writing FS a while back when the first Jaws 12 was put out and
noticed that Firefox was getting really slow really fast. The response I
got
at that time was that it was a memmory issue with Firefox. maybe it was,
but
then again, it may have just been Jaws 12 itself.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:42 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Major problems with the latest Jaws and Firefox 4.0 and Google
Reader

I do notice, as do you the overall slower response in web pages with any
sub-release of JAWS 12. I also have occasion to load JAWS 11 and can
experience the speed difference.

I characterize the "slowness" as similar to a web page that hangs for a
while before completing, but in the case of JAWS 12 I often have pages that

just do not speak until and unless I Alt+Tab out and back in.

And I think I've made myself pretty clear on my feelings for JFW 12.0.1158,

so enough said on that topic.

Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "CrisMunoz54" <crismunoz54@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 15:30
Subject: Major problems with the latest Jaws and Firefox 4.0 and Google
Reader


Hello list,



I have been having all sorts of trouble with Firefox and the latest Jaws 12
release. In particular the Google Reader page. I wanted to share what I'm
experiencing and see if it may just be an issue with my machine or if
others
are dealing with the same problems.



I have Google Reader as one of my homepages and when I launch Firefox, Jaws
always behaves as though the virtual cursor is turned off. In fact, Jaws
will say "Application Mode On". In order to get Jaws to work properly, I
have to do an insert+z keystroke command and then Jaws will say
"Application
Mode off". I'll then be able to go around the page with no problems. This
particular issue only started when upgrading the Firefox 4.0 and is still
present with the latest Firefox 4.0.1 update. If while in Firefox and I go
back to my Google Reader page, either by clicking on the Reader link from
another Google site or through my saved bookmark at least 70% of the time,
the "Application Mode On" issue comes up.



I have noticed a marked increase of instances of Mozilla crashing with this
latest Jaws release as well. Again, it happns most often while on the
Google
Reader page and while in Firefox in general. Either when I go to the Google
Reader page, close a link that I had opened from Google Reader or simply by
just having the page open or refreshing the page with the insert+escape key
command. Upwards of 10 times a day. It would happen every now and then with
the earlier versions of Jaws 12, but it has become a constant with the
latest JFW rlease. I at first thought it was an issue with Firefox or
perhaps a rogue add-on, but I have tried disabling add-ons and plug-ins and
Firefox was still crashing left and right. When I use an older version of
Jaws (11.0)

 however, Firefox not only never crashes, but the over all responsiveness
of
the browser and JFW feel over all snappier and better. With JFW 12, using
the browser had become painfully slow either through regular navigating
from
page to page as well as when trying to refresh a page. Seconds would go by
before Jaws would be able to speak. Not to mention the crashing problem.
Jaws would outright crash much more frequently too.



 I don't experience the browser crashing issue in IE8, but the over all
sluggishness with JFW 12 is present along with using other applications. I
at first thought that I had been infected with a virus or other malware,
but
with the older version of 11.0, my computer is much, much more responsive.



 I do however experience the "Application Mode On" issue with JFW 11.0 as
well. So maybe it's a Firefox 4.0 thing in regards to this.



 There are a couple of other problems, but the ones above are what are
giving me the most problems. Is anyone else experiencing any of these
problems or have any ideas on what may be causing it?



 Like I said, when using JFW 11.0, a lot of what I mentioned above doesn't
happen. All my antivirus and malware stuff is up to date. I was going to
shoot an email off to Freedom Scientific, but wanted to get feedback from
other Jaws users as well. This is the first time a new Jaws release has
given me this much trouble since I don't know when and want to be sure it's
perhaps not something on my end.



 Thanks,

 Cristobal



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