Re: Kill JAWS Simplified
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:14:20 -0700
Don,
Well, that worked like a charm. Earlier advice has been to find a similarly
named file under an entirely different folder. c:\windows\system 32, if I
recall correctly. Which didn't work.
Now one more problem. I want to use control alt K for the hotkey. But I
assigned it to an earlier shortcut icon that I created using one of those
wrong files, and even though I've deleted that shortcut, I see the hotkey
won't allow itself to be assigned to this new shortcut. It needs to be
released. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Moore" <donmoore@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Kill JAWS Simplified
Hi List,
The path for the jfwKill.exe file in XP Home is:
c:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Runtime JAWS\9.0\jfwkill.exe
If you are using either JAWS 7.10 or JAWS 8.0, just put those version
numbers in the path instead of 9.0
Hope this helps,
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Kill JAWS Simplified
> Where is this runtime folder you're referring to? And as for the topic in
> general, I think I'm just going to call or email FS tech support and ask
> someone about this. When I have time. I'll report anything useful that I
> learn. it's become frustrating that we're all guessing what these things
> do
> and all that. Seems finally to be a lot of unnecessary aimless speculation
> if someone who knew could just explain without much difficulty. Not to be
> dismissive or unappreciative of anyone who tried to contribute to this
> thread, but sometimes it just gets like an aimless guessing game, going
> nowhere. As I say, if I can find out anything solid, I'll share.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Levine" <rlstation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 7:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Kill JAWS Simplified
>
>
> Hi Dan,
> jfwkill.exe can be found in the runtime jaws folder for all versions of
> jaws. I executed the program and it seemed to work, but I am not sure it
> does the same thing as taskkill.exe with XP Pro. It appears that with XP
> Home jfwkill.exe will have to be the choice. Maybe jfwkill.exe is the same
> as the Jaws key + Windows Key + F4 combo.
> Roger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Beaver" <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:52 AM
> Subject: Re: Kill JAWS Simplified
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I hate to butt in here since i haven't followed this from the beginning
>> but maybe this could help.
>>
>> In older versions of Jaws there was a couple of programs that could be
>> used to kill Jaws. They were jstop.exe and jfwkill.exe. I used them so
>> much that I ended up keeping my own copies when I saw that jfwkill.exe
>> was
>> dropped from the distribution. If you still have version 6 or earlier
>> CDs
>> you might find it on them.
>>
>> If you can get them you could just setup a shortcut to those executables
>> and they do a very clean job of killing Jaws.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dave 'SqueezeBox' Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: Kill JAWS Simplified
>>
>>
>>> Hmmm. Don't know Roger, but it works flawlessly on my XP Pro machine,
>>> using
>>> the taskkill.exe file in the shortcut. Sorry it's seemingly obtuse.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Roger Levine" <rlstation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Kill JAWS Simplified
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi once again,
>>> I have already tried the simplified method on my XP Home machine and
>>> found
>>> that it does not work. Their must be some nuances about this which we
>>> obviously don't know. My wife says I am a Pit Bull about these kind of
>>> problems. We have to remain good natured about this technical pursuit.
>>> Roger ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Kill JAWS Simplified
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dave,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for the advice. Not to upset you, because you went to so much
>>>> trouble
>>>> below, but I think if you'd read my earlier messages, you'd have seen
>>>> that
>>>> I
>>>> did all these other steps just fine. I knew how to create a shortcut on
>>>> the
>>>> desktop and set a hotkey for it and all of that. the whole problem was
>>>> just
>>>> figuring out which file to use. And doing it directly like this is what
>>>> I
>>>> would have thought of first if someone hadn't posted the suggestion for
>>>> a
>>>> batch file or two. I just thought they must have a reason I wasn't
>>>> aware
>>>> of
>>>> for doing that, so I just went with it. but this is how I'd launch
>>>> anything
>>>> from a desktop shortcut, actually.
>>>>
>>>> Now, I'm not sure that the batch file actually need have gotten in the
>>>> way,
>>>> but at least trying it this way will simplify the process and take that
>>>> out
>>>> of the mix.
>>>>
>>>> I'll just go back into that folder and do it this way. Who knows? It
>>>> might
>>>> just work.
>>>> From: "Dave 'SqueezeBox' Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:17 PM
>>>> Subject: Kill JAWS Simplified
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Forget the batch file. Do this:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Use Windows Explorer to browse to the executable file in the
>>>> system32
>>>> folder under windows.
>>>> 2. Highlight either taskkill.exe or tskkill.exe or whatever is the
>>>> spelling
>>>> for your version of windows.
>>>> 3. Press the Application key (context menu).
>>>> 4. Arrow down to "send to" and right arrow.
>>>> 5. arrow down to "Desktop (create shortcut)" and press enter.
>>>> 6. Close Explorer and go to the desktop.
>>>> 7. Find the shortcut you just created.
>>>> 8. Highlight that icon and press F2.
>>>> 9. Give it a meaningful name, if desired and press Enter.
>>>> 10. Again highlight the same icon and press Alt+Enter.
>>>> 11. You'll be on the target (command) line. Press the End key to go to
>>>> the
>>>> end of the command line.
>>>> 12. press the spacebar to insert a blank space at the end and then
>>>> type:
>>>> /f
>>>> /im jfw.exe
>>>> 13. Tab twice and set up a shortcut key if desired.
>>>> 14. Press Enter to save the work.
>>>>
>>>> That's it.
>>>>
>>>> Use it from the desktop or with the shortcut key. No batch file needed.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bissett, Tom" <tom.bissett@xxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:59 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That window now I remember we used to call the dos prompt and that's
>>>> how
>>>> we work in it. The stuff you were seeing can be cleared by typing
>>>> "cls"
>>>> I am sure you remember that command. Then the only thing you have
>>>> below
>>>> the windows bar at the top is the dos prompt but it picks up the path
>>>> from your home folder "c:\documents and settings\yardbird".
>>>> The reason I suggested this approach was that when you execute your
>>>> batch file any errors will remain in the window rather than just
>>>> opening
>>>> executing closing as when you run your batch from the short cut because
>>>> when the window closes you have know idea what happened.
>>>> I hope this clears it up a bit.
>>>>
>>>> Tom Bissett
>>>> BMO Financial Group
>>>> Technology and Operations
>>>> Integrated Client Solutions
>>>> Tel: (416) 549-6514
>>>> E-Mail tom.bissett@xxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf Of Yardbird
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:01 PM
>>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right
>>>>
>>>> You're right. Exit worked. It just sounds, using jaws, as if what's in
>>>> that box is part of a folder tree view, and it was hard to imagine that
>>>> I could just type something, any more than I'd type something directly
>>>> onto the screen when I'm in Windows Explorer. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bissett, Tom" <tom.bissett@xxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:25 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Type "exit" and the command prompt will close propperly
>>>>
>>>> Tom Bissett
>>>> BMO Financial Group
>>>> Technology and Operations
>>>> Integrated Client Solutions
>>>> Tel: (416) 549-6514
>>>> E-Mail tom.bissett@xxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf Of Yardbird
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:59 PM
>>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right
>>>>
>>>> And how do you get out of that command box or whatever it is? It's not
>>>> as if I can't alt f 4 out of it to do other things, but I'd like to
>>>> just
>>>> exit it properly. Do I have to be careful not to type or delete
>>>> anything
>>>> in it?
>>>> What's its purpose? Why was I recommended to launch it?
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "RAWest" <rawest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:29 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To open the command prompt in the run dialog type cmd and press enter.
>>>>
>>>> I believe it is also in all programs, accessories
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To find me you can do the following.
>>>>
>>>> Skype id: rawest24
>>>>
>>>> Aim id: rawest24
>>>>
>>>> EMail: rawest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Yardbird
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:55 PM
>>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right
>>>>
>>>> Roger,
>>>>
>>>> By "replace" you mean correct the spelling? Thanks, but I just did and
>>>> that
>>>> didn't help, either. In fact, that window no longer flashes when I
>>>> click
>>>> on
>>>> the icon. Here is the corrected line from the batch file, which as I
>>>> said, I
>>>> copied directly from what was provided early in the thread by someone.
>>>> I
>>>> deleted the "a" from the filename:
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>> tskkill /F /IM jfw.exe
>>>>
>>>> Maybe one of the other suggestions that were provided in this thread
>>>> uses a
>>>> path to the file? Because I believe one version of this that I saw
>>>> earlier
>>>> includes a path under c:\ involving a few numeraals. So please look
>>>> again at
>>>> the above line and consider that it might give the batch file incorrect
>>>> directions?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. I wish I could remember the more complex filename I saw for
>>>> this
>>>> file earlier, but I can't.
>>>>
>>>> long a different path
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Roger Levine" <rlstation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:05 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> If you are using XP home, then replace "taskkill" with "tskill". After
>>>> you
>>>> have tryed this, let us know.
>>>> Good Luck,
>>>> Roger
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:30 AM
>>>> Subject: killjaws.bat, not sure if I did it right
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Following directions that were provided here, I created a file named
>>>>> killjaws.bat in a
>>>>> chosen folder using these lines:
>>>>>
>>>>> echo off
>>>>> taskkill /F /IM jfw.exe
>>>>>
>>>>> I went to the file and created a Desktop shortcut icon for it, using
>>>>> the Send To function.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I went to the new icon, went into its properties, and created a
>>>>> hotkey
>>>>> for it so I could invoke the batch file next time Jaws lost speech. So
>>>>> far,
>>>>> so good.
>>>>>
>>>>> But when I pressed my hotkey combo, nothing happened. I checked to see
>>>> if
>>>>> my
>>>>> hotkey had held, and it had. I went to the desktop, focused on the
>>>> icon,
>>>>> and
>>>>> pressed Enter to activate it. Again, nothing happened.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did a restart in order to see if that might have been needed. It
>>>> made no
>>>>> difference. The only thing I can report helpfully is visual evidence
>>>> I'm
>>>>> unable to make sense of. And that is, when I activate this shortcut, a
>>>>> small
>>>>> dark rectangle I assume to be some sort of notification flashes onto
>>>> the
>>>>> screen and disappears, all within a fraction of a second. Even if I
>>>> could
>>>>> read, and therefore wouldn't need Jaws in the first place, I probably
>>>>> couldn't see what this thing says because it flashes by so fast. So
>>>> that
>>>>> doesn't help me describe what's going on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have an idea what it is that's not working right? Could it
>>>> be
>>>>> that you can't just exit Jaws this way in a normal situation, instead
>>>> of
>>>>> unloading it with Insert F4? You have to be in a situation where Jaws
>>>>> loses
>>>>> speech?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
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