Re: Keeping control home from initiating Say Allnititating

Which means that Jaws has piggybacked a variant of Say All onto this Windows 
command. To my regret. I have never, ever used that keystroke hoping to get 
jaws to start reading automatically. Only to just get to where I was trying 
to get to. Damn.

As for the second, sure, I'm long used to control up arrow, as I said from 
even before I used jaws. But there's another reason  I don't care to use 
this P command in word, and that is that I never, ever have a Word document 
loaded that is write protected. Which means, if I turn on those navigation 
quick keys, I can only use very few of them (I don't use headers, for 
instance, in anything I do) and that would have to be at moments when I have 
no alternative for getting around, for some reason, and I'm sure I'll 
remember to turn off the function so I don't start typing the letter p all 
over the place by accident and then have to hunt around to clean it up. Lot 
of use that is. Grumble. I'm sure those quick keys are of some use to 
someone, but whatever.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "G.W. Cox" <gwcox2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Keeping control home from initiating Say Allnititating


That was from keyboard help. In Jaws help the control up arrow is listed
under "Windows Keystrokes for Working with Text" though we see that it
reads the whole paragraph.

Answer to the second question is yes, but I got used to the control down
arrow rather than the more recent quick key P.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Keeping control home from initiating Say Allnititating


Jerry,

You're describing this key stroke as if it's Jaws proprietary, but I
feel as
if I remember it in my pre-Jaws days as simply being the Word keyboard
command for going to the beginning of the paragraph and staying there.

Now, these other commands you mention, are they the one-key navigational
commands that were added to Jaws for Word a version or so ago, meant to
work
sort of like the one-key navigational commands on a Web page? I've never
tried any of those in Word, though if I read you correctly, it'd be the
same
thing. My cursor would go to that point, but Jaws would just start
reading
again like some sort of unstoppable robot.

Well, let me try these letter P keystrokes...
Okay. I used the Insert V menu to turn on the navigational keystrokes. I
see. By "redundant," you mean equivalent in this case, as I thought. As
you
know, that has the very same effect. So I guess there's nothing for it
but
to do as I've been doing all along, as Judith reminds us. Use the
keystroke
to get where you want to, but hit Control as quickly as you can to stop
jaws
from taking off on its own. Sort of like a video game, except that,for
us,
you're talking about hand-ear coordination instead of hand-eye
coordination.
Ah, my days of pinball championships at the bars and the amusement park
arcades. Well, that's milk under the bridge or whatever. Brain science,
rocket surgery.

Darn. Oh, well, at least I asked.
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Keeping control home from initiating Say Allnititating


That keystroke is move by paragraph and after  you do it, it reads the
paragraph. The redundancy for this is P or shift P.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 1:13 PM
Subject: Keeping control home from initiating Say Allnititating


Hi,

I'm using Jaws 8, but this has been happening to me for long enough so
that
I forget when it started. Now, I'm a great fan of Say All, and use it
often
in order to sit back and listen to long sections of a text document or
an
online news article. but when I'm writing and editing in a Word
document,
the control home key command, which is just the old Word keystroke for
going
to the beginning of the previous paragraph or the paragraph you're in,
Jaws
seems to take it as a Say All command instructing it to begin speaking
from
the top of the paragraph instead of going by sentence, which is how I've
got
Say All set in Configuration Manager. But jaws shouldn't be doing
anything
like this. It should just allow me to focus on the first word of the
paragraph, which is all the Word key combination is supposed to achieve.

And so if I want to begin reviewing or editing at that point, I have to
do
something like immediately press something relevant to the situation
like
control right arrow to start moving one word at a time from the start of
the
paragraph in order to keep this from happening. And if I'm not quick
enough,
Jaws just rushes ahead past where I wanted to be located, and I have to
stop
the headlong rush of the cursor and the speaking by hitting the Control
key
or whatever, then try again to get to the top of the paragraph without
Jaws
rushing ahead reading again.

I looked in the Text Processing menu in Configuration Manager and in the
Say
All menu, too, but could find nothing that seemed relevant to this
issue. Am
I missing something? I hate having to do this crazy little wrestling
match
with Jaws.

thanks.

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