Re: Jaws update feature vs. downloading full update file from FS

  • From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 14:38:10 -0700

Bruce,

Yes. Not to mention that a hard-hitting investigative effort by someone on 
another list has revealed that FS deliberately releases updates for each 
version that are programmed to damage it beyond repair, in order to justify 
their coming out with the next paid or SMA release a few months later. Not 
everyone agrees with this theory, but it reflects some of the stress people 
feel about the unseen machinations of the FS Death Star.

What a world, what a world. I'm melting....
stree

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Toews" <KetchupBoy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws update feature vs. downloading full update file from FS


Because you see people writing essays expressing their trepidation and so
on, and that scares people away.

bruce

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On Fri, 23 May 2008, Yardbird wrote:

> Robert,
>
> Well, if that's what accounts for the smaller file size, and that's
> essentially the difference, it makes perfect sense to use the update 
> feature
> form the Help menu. I remain puzzled why so many users apparently 
> disregard
> this convenience and scurry about every time there's an update discussing
> where to find the file and how to download it. Just don't get it. But I
> explained that in another recent message.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "RAWest" <rawest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:35 PM
> Subject: RE: Jaws update feature vs. downloading full update file from FS
>
>
> Believe it is slightly smaller than the full .exe download.
>
> Remember when you  download the file from fs windows installer opens 
> during
> install.  Using jaws update this part of the installation is bypassed.  It
> just installs it using your current settings.
>
> So that is how it is treated as an update.
>
>
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Yardbird
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 3:04 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Jaws update feature vs. downloading full update file from FS
>
> Robert,
>
> I haven't checked file sizes so I must ask you. Are you saying that what 
> the
> update method installed for you appeared to be the exact size of the full
> program? Or is that number showing that it's only a smaller file than the
> full program?
> Thanks.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "RAWest" <rawest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:29 AM
> Subject: RE: Jaws update feature vs. downloading full update file from FS
>
>
> Hello
>
> Well just on the last update, I used the update feature and the file size 
> it
> downloaded was 58 mega bytes
>
> So the only thing I know is that using this method gets you out of using 
> the
> windows installer interface.
>
> Other than that I don't know of any other difference.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Yardbird
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:39 PM
> To: JFW List
> Subject: Jaws update feature vs. downloading full update file from FS
>
> As a new update to Jaws 9 has been released, I'm going to install it. I 
> know
> how to do this both of the ways I mention in the subject line.
>
> However, I have never understood exactly how the two methods differ, aside
> from the actions you take to do them. Naturally, even though I know how to
> go to the Jaws Central area of the FS site and find the latest update 
> file,
> and then run it as an install process myself, I'm attractted to the
> simplified, easier method of just using the update feature on the Help 
> menu.
>
> But there are always discussions on these mailing lists that make it sound
> as if the two methods are substantively different, and there seem to be
> ;jurists who believe that using the update feature is a halfway measure 
> that
> may not properly modify your existing copy of Jaws, and may cause 
> problems.
> These people seem to believe that the only right and safe way to do an
> update is to download the latest file from FS, which is a complete
> replacement for the program, I think, and install it yourself.
>
> Could anyone explain the origin of this disagreement, and shed some
> practical light on the topic? As I said, if I were sure that using the
> update feature were really responsible and safe, I'd certainly prefer it 
> to
> having to go to FS, download the huge file and then go through an install
> wizard procedure.
>
> teaksThanks.
>
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