Re: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions

Judith,

If you do indeed have JAWS Standard Edition, you do not have Windows XP Pro. If you did have Windows XP Pro, JAWS would be running in demo mode, and you would have to reboot your computer every 40 minutes to make JAWS work again after it timed out.

Gary King
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions



Carl, I got this version of Jaws from the commission for the blind and they don't buy pro editions of anything. Also, on this new computer jaws works better than it did on my win 98 machine Except for my disappearing documents and emails. I sent one of the posts from this list over to my teck but, as could have been predicted, he hasn't answered yet. Thanks, Judith
----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Smith" <karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:48 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions



Hello Judith,

I am glad your system is working but I am curious how you know your JAWS is
standard. I can't imagine how it would work on an XP pro system if it is.
One way to be sure is to go to www.fsactivate.com, press the continue button
and select the link to verify the number of keys available. Enter your
serial number, hit submit and the resulting table will tell you for sure.
Inquiring minds want to know.


Karl



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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Judith Bron
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 8:42 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions


Well, I don't know who is right or wrong but except for the mystery of my
disappearing documents or emails jaws regular is running fine on my xp pro
machine. I forwarded a post from this list to my teck to see if he would
adjust my settings so that I could hang on to my documents. I'm not
debating right or wrong on this, I can't afford to upgrade to jaws pro.
So, for now let him make his adjustments so I can keep my documents. Judith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Benoit" <reb503@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions



I stand corrected.  You and Cy are correct.  Judith Bron, in an earlier
post,  thought she was running XP Pro and Jaws Standard.  This
indicates that she must be mistaken about on or the other.

Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Stansifer" <larrys@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions


That is absolutely correct, unless FS has changed the game in the
last two weeks.

At 08:55 PM 9/19/2006 -0500, Cy Selfridge wrote:

Well, I was under the impression that JAWS Standard would go into the
Demo mode if you tried to run it on the Pro version of XP?
You would not be authorized to run I think?
Cy, the Ancient Okie...

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Richard Benoit
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:06 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions

 Cy and Alex,

I agree with both of you to a point.  I believe that all the Jaws
editions start with the $1295 edition and that the authorization key
determines which functions are disabled, otherwise they are
identical.  I don't see any way to determine whether it's Standard or
Pro except that:  if under About Jaws it says "Remote access
enabled", that means that it is the $1295 edition, They are all the
same version number.  I don't doubt that there are differences that
are necessary for compatibility with the various XP editions, but
nothing that the average would notice.

In my conversation with FS today they said that the Standard edition
is being phased out.  I think that they inferred that there will be
only edition.  I assume that this might be the end of the $895 price.
What the new price will be is anyone's guess.

Judith's problem still remains.  If what FS says is true (and I think
it probably is), and if she is running XP Pro with Jaws Standard she
will have to upgrade to Jaws Pro.  She should, of course, get some
authoritative advice before spending a minimum of $200 plus tax.

Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Stone" <alex.stone@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions


> Cy, I believe the only difference is the authorization keys.
> Cheers.
> Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
> Sent: 19 September 2006 20:51
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions
>
>
> Hi folks,
> From all I know JAWS standard and JAWS Pro are the same programs.
> I do not think I have ever seen anything which explains the
> differences.
> Perhaps, in earlier days, XP Pro was used primarily by businesses
> and FS figured they could afford to pay a little more for the
> authorization?
> I am very unhappy that JAWS Standard does not work (reportedly)
> with XP Media Edition.
> Lots of home computers now come only with Media Edition and it is
> getting harder to find one of the top of the line computers with
> XP Home.
> As I understand the Microbloat Vista the various editions are
> really hard to decipher.
> This should really be interesting indeed.
> Cy, the Ancient Okie...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Richard Benoit
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 2:30 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions
>
> Judith,
> I certainly don't consider myself an authority on this matter but
> it seems that what this tech said is definitely in conflict with
> what Freedom
> Scientific is saying. Jaws Standard definitely does not need XP > Pro.

> FS
> says that Jaws Standard only works with XP Home. If it worked with
> XP Pro or Media Center there would be no reason to upgrade to Jaws
> Pro.  FS says that Jaws Pro works with all editions of XP.
>
> Because you said that you were using XP Pro with Jaws Standard it
> made me question whether I had upgraded to Jaws Pro unnecessarily.
> I just called FS and confirmed that the tech is incorrect.  They
> said that Jaws Standard will not work properly with XP Pro.
>
> It may be that the problems you are having are unrelated to the
> mismatched programs but I think it would be wise to discuss this
> with FS.
>
> Richard
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions
>
>
>> Richard, According to the teck I bought this from jaws needs xp
>> pro to function properly.  Jaws itself is working fine on my
>> computer, its just all the other idiosyncracies that are wacky.
>> Judith
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard Benoit" <reb503@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:22 AM
>> Subject: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions
>>
>>
>>> Someone that was having difficulty with their new computer
>>> mentioned that
>
>>> they were running Windows XP Pro and Jaws Standard.  Someone
>>> else has already mentioned that this may be the cause of the
>>> problem.  I can't confirm that but I would't be surprised if
>>> that was the case.
>>>
>>> In the past week I purchased a new laptop that is running
>>> Windows Media Center Edition (Windows Home was not an option).
>>>
>>> Freedom Scientific, on their website, lists Jaws Standard as
>>> being compatible only with XP Home Edition.  If this is not true
>>> then I believe
>
>>> that their sales department would have advised me that I had the
>>> option of not upgrading, rather than upgrading to Jaws Pro at a
>>> cost of
>>> $368
>>> ($200 upgrade plus $200 for the SMA minus $60 refund for 1
>>> unused version
>
>>> upgrade plus sales tax.
>>>
>>> As I understand it, XP Media Center is based on Pro with certain
>>> functions disabled and with other functions added.
>>>
>>> Can anyone elaborate on this?
>>>
>>> Richard
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