RE: Jaws basic training in Daisy format:

  • From: "KStarrett" <kstarrett5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:27:01 -0500

If the FS daisy format is anything like the RFBD daisy format -- and I don't
know if it is -- then the answer is no.

Kimberly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of louie
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 1:20 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Jaws basic training in Daisy format:
>
>
> Hi all,
> Can I burn the Daisy  manual to CD and read it with my plextalk?
> Louie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Jaws basic training in Daisy format:
>
>
> > Ah.  So the rest of what I was wondering isn't so.  In other
> words, if you
> > learn to use this program to read the Jaws tutorial material, it won't
> > time
> > out.  It's just designed so that if you try to use this demo version to
> > read, say, a book from RFB&D, it won't work.  At which point, when the
> > full
> > version is released, you'd have to either purchase that or, of
> course, one
> > of its competitors in the market, whatever those are.
> >
> > Am I getting it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Daniel
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:03 AM
> > Subject: Re: Jaws basic training in Daisy format:
> >
> >
> > Hi.
> > Daniel asked:
> >
> >>What is this FS Reader?  Is it a stand-alone Daisy reading
> program that's
> >>offered only as a demo on the Freedom site, and for which you
> have to pay
> >>if
> >>you want full uninterrupted functionality?
> > The FS reader demo, note this is a demo, comes with JAWS 6. It is a
> > software application designed to read books in daisy format, hence the
> > title, FS reader. Yes, there is a full version that is, or will be
> > available soon that will give you full uninterrupted access.
> >
> > The only limitation is that you can not read any other
> materials with the
> > demo, other than the JAWS basic training materials which are
> downloadable
> > on the FS site, or on the JAWS 6 cd, and these are available to you,
> > absolutely free of charge.
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:06 AM
> >>Subject: Re: Jaws basic training in Daisy format:
> >>
> >>
> >>Right. Daisy is not an mp3 file, let's get that out of the way. Daisy is
> >>just a simplified way of presenting information in both text
> and audio. FS
> >>used Mp3 files which is why you saw those, and there are htmll files as
> >>well. so  you get the text from the html, and the audio from
> the mp3, but
> >>you can use either or both.
> >>It's just a way to make a choice very quickly without having to open a
> >>whole bunch of files at once. being able to skip from section to section
> >>like on a cd is the beauty of Daisy.
> >>But we're getting off topic here and this is supposed to be
> about JAWS so
> >>i'll shut up now.
> >>
> >>
> >>At 02:49 AM 3/4/2005, you wrote:
> >> >I think that FS needs to make a simple instruction manual on
> how to use
> >> >this new
> >> >format.  Cut out all the technical stuff
> >> >But basically, skipping from section to section is just like skipping
> >> >tracks on
> >> >a CD.  It's a new program, and like any new program, there are a whole
> >> >bunch of
> >> >hot keys to learn.
> >> >---- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 2:32 AM
> >> >Subject: Re: Jaws basic training in Daisy format:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >If you have the Daisy books installed into the proper folder, all you
> >> >need
> >> >to do is first open FS reader, press control plus o, shift
> tab once and
> >> >there are your daisy books. press enter on one you want to read. then
> >> >press
> >> >control plus p to play or pause, control plus s to stop, or you can
> >> >simply
> >> >read the text associated with them. Perhaps FS needs to make things a
> >> >bit
> >> >simpler because soooooo many people on this list and others I've seen
> >> >were
> >> >having trouble with this.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >At 07:01 PM 3/3/2005, you wrote:
> >> > >Freedom Scientific is advertising their basic training in Daisy
> >> > >format.
> >> > >Even
> >> > >with technical assistance from the Canadian National
> Institute for the
> >> > Blind,
> >> > >neither I nor they could get this feature to work.
> >> > >I can read the audio files in  MP3 format--Winamp is invoked
> >> > >automatically--but
> >> > >none of the standard navigation available in Daisy format
> is available
> >> > >when
> >> > >simply navigating the files as MP3's. I do have the fast forward and
> >> > >rewind and
> >> > >volume features in Winamp working but the speech
> compression and place
> >> > marker
> >> > >features, available in the Daisy format are of course not
> available in
> >> > Winamp.
> >> > >Question: Where and how are the training materials
> available in Daisy
> >> > format?
> >> > >I installed the training files from the Jaws 6.0 program disk. These
> >> > >are
> >> > >in the
> >> > >training\enu file and the FS reader is on the desktop.
> >> > >The instructions for using the FS Reader are indeed
> available in Daisy
> >> > format
> >> > >with all the navigation keys but there are no training
> files available
> >> > >here.
> >> > >Has anyone been able to get this to work.
> >> > >I read Chris' post and did copy the files to the training\enu as he
> >> > >recommended
> >> > >and even put them in a Victor books directory on my desktop. Many
> >> > >other
> >> > >Victor
> >> > >books files I have in that directory read in the true Daisy
> format but
> >> > >the
> >> > >Jaws
> >> > >training files read only through Winamp.
> >> > >I then uninstalled Jaws and reinstalled it and made sure
> the training
> >> > >files were
> >> > >installed through a guided install and still I can read these files
> >> > >only
> >> > >through
> >> > >Winamp but not with the FS Daisy reader nor with the Victor Soft
> >> > >software.
> >> > >Sorry for the lengthy post but now that you know what I
> have done, Can
> >> > >you
> >> > >now
> >> > >apprise me as to what I haven't done or haven't done correctly?
> >> > >
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