Re: Jaws 6 not focusing on Word 2003 thesaurus
- From: "john r. vaughn" <jrvaughn44@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:33:13 -0500
With sighted assistance, I have confirmed that the The reality is that the
screen is split when you bring up the thesaurus with shift F7 in word XP
2003. I have two computers, both running Windows XP and Jaws 6. one
computer is running office Word XP 2002 and the thesaurus comes up as you
arre used to with you being placed in a dialogue box.
My other computer is running Office 2003 word, and sighted help has
confirmed that shift F7 brings up a window on the right side of the screen
with the new layout for the thesaurus. When I press the F6 key I am able to
move the curser focus to the right side pane and jaws announces this. if I
press F6 again, jaws announces I am in the document pane.
John
John .
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 6 not focusing on Word 2003 thesaurus
> John, with all due respect, you're shifting the paradigm here to absolve
> Jaws of responsibility. I don't follow your reasoning. Isn't it enough
> to
> forgive them for not keeping up with this particular development and
> expressing gentle hope that they'll release an update or patch to rectify
> the oversight? Just my way of seeing it. I'm not sure that giving thanks
> has anything to do with this, rationally.
> pu
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "john r. vaughn" <jrvaughn44@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: Jaws 6 not focusing on Word 2003 thesaurus
>
>
>> The problem is with microsoft and not Jaws. Microsoft Word is microsofts
>> product.
>> I as a jaws user, using the things I have learned (including the use of
>> the
>> F6 key stroke to access such a Word interface as the task pane. We have
>> as
>> jaws users been having to use the F6 commands for a good while now.
>> So hopefully, we can all just teach other on how to identify new problems
>> and ways to deal with the new challenge. I am pleased that Jaws has the
>> capability right out of the box to deal with this change by microsoft.
>> So
>> lets be thankful for what we have.
>> John in sunny florida
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 12:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: Jaws 6 not focusing on Word 2003 thesaurus
>>
>>
>>> With all due admiration for John's enterprising explorations, I think
>>> this
>>> is something to ask Freedom Scientific about, directly. Compared to the
>>> way
>>> the thesaurus functioned previously, this is absolutely ridiculous. I
>>> want
>>> to hear directly from Jaws tech support what the story is on this
>>> egregious
>>> lapse in accessibility of a crucial component of Word.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "john r vaughn" <jrvaughn44@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 6:28 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Jaws 6 not focusing on Word 2003 thesaurus
>>>
>>>
>>>> ann and listI just noticed this as well and started playing around with
>>>> it
>>>> and do not have all the answers yet. , the thesaurus is still accessed
>>>> by
>>>> shift F7 but the information is on another screen or rather other pane
>>>> on
>>>> the screen which you access by using the toggle key F6.
>>>> when you get to the pane, use jaws key plus F1 to give you tips on the
>>>> type
>>>> of control you are on.
>>>> but basically, if you are on a word in a document and want to see other
>>>> possible words to use, while on the word in the document, do a shift F7
>>>> key
>>>> stroke on the word, then F6 to get to the pane with other choices.
>>>> while on the other pane, I could tab through the various controls and
>>>> found
>>>> an edit box, which you could use to type another word, a search button,
>>>> then
>>>> a list box where you want the deffinition of the word to be searched
>>>> for(i
>>>> used thesaurus) and then a drop down button which I have not yet
>>>> figured
>>>> out
>>>> and then a tree view which I could down arrow through and find
>>>> different
>>>> words. if I entered on the different word, it brought up more choices.
>>>> I
>>>> have not yet figured out how to get the word I want to use added to the
>>>> document. and remember, you can use the F6 key to toggle back to the
>>>> document pane.
>>>> maybe we can all figure this out. I am going to word help topics next.
>>>> john in sunny florida
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 9:12 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Jaws 6 not focusing on Word 2003 thesaurus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it has happened to me too. Have you figured out where the dialog
>>>>> is??? I would be very interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 02:02 AM 2/12/2005, you wrote:
>>>>>>Subject line says it all. I just upgraded to Jaws 6, and at the same
>>>>>>time
>>>>>>replaced my old Word 2000 with Word in Office 2003. With my old Jaws
>>>>>>4.51
>>>>>>and Word 2000, when I brought up the Thesaurus with Shift F7, Jaws
>>>>>>focused
>>>>>>on the Thesaurus as precisely as it focused on the Word Spell Check.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But now, in this new configuration, pressing Shift F7 on a word does
>>>>>>indeed
>>>>>>bring up a window or dialogue for the thesaurus on the right side of
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>screen (I have only some peripheral vision, so I can see that this
>>>>>>happens
>>>>>>though I can't read the dialogue's contents for lack of central
>>>>>>vision).
>>>>>>But Jaws doesn't focus on the thesaurus at all. I've explored with
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>Jaws
>>>>>>cursor just to get an idea of how the Thesaurus dialogue looks, and it
>>>>>>seems
>>>>>>to be a bit different in its particulars from previous versions. But
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>is of no consequence one way or another if Jaws won't focus the
>>>>>>virtual
>>>>>>cursor as it should so I can use the function.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Has anyone else encountered this problem? Is it a bug in Jaws 6? Any
>>>>>>suggestions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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