RE: Jaws 11 and Word 2003 difficulties
- From: "Starrett, Kimberly A., VBAPHILSDT" <kimberly.starrett@xxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 06:20:26 -0400
Exactly. But I could never *make* it happen with enough regularity to
get anyone (fs or anyone else) to acknowledge that it is a real issue.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bissett, Tom
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 4:20 PM
To: 'jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: Jaws 11 and Word 2003 difficulties
I think what Kim is refering to is that in a terminal session the
modifiers do not physically get stuck but rather that the computer
thinks they are. I ran into this all the time when I was remoting into
servers.
Unfortunately the only way to fix it was rebooting.
Tom Bisset
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: May 16, 2011 3:36 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Jaws 11 and Word 2003 difficulties
Kim,
Next time just rapidly press the left/right/left/right etc. pair of
ctrl, then alt, then shift. This usually unsticks, and is one heck of a
lot faster than rebooting...and it is a good way to exercise your finger
muscles.
Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: Starrett, Kimberly A., VBAPHILSDT
<mailto:kimberly.starrett@xxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 10:52
Subject: RE: Jaws 11 and Word 2003 difficulties
I never heard about the "stuck" modifier key thing though I see
it all the time when using outlook in a remote terminal session. The
only way I've ever found to address the problem was to reboot the
machine, which is far from ideal but does work.
Kim
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 1:40 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Jaws 11 and Word 2003 difficulties
Chris,
I'm almost with you on going back to JFW 11 but not yet.
I've encountered similar issues with navigating in a message
area in Outlook 2007 occasionally. I've found that it's usually because
one of the modifier keys are stuck (Ctrl, Alt, Shift, Windows). Multiple
presses of left/right keys get this resolved and often I'm back in
business.
Of course this does not sound like how JFW 11 used to behave for
me, but it's been so long I wouldn't be a reliable reporter on behavior.
However it does happen with JFW 12.0.525 and has happened to
some extent for every version of JAWS as far back as 3.5. And of course
the "stuck key" is always blamed on the keyboard drivers used by MS. Big
surprise.
Anyway thought I'd pass along that suggestion, just in case it
makes things easier for you.
Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my
Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: CrisMunoz54 <mailto:crismunoz54@xxxxxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 10:28
Subject: Jaws 11 and Word 2003 difficulties
Hello list,
With all the trouble that the latest Jaws release
(12.0.1158) has given me and others on these various slists, I have gone
back to using Jaws 11 (11.0.1476
I think it is) for now. Aside from the issues here and
there that have been fixed in the newer JFW 12 releases, I'm satisfied
with Jaws 11 over all.
There is one thing however that I am experiencing and
because it's been so long since I've used JFW 11, I can't recall if this
was present in Jaws 11 when
it was still the newest build.
When I open a Word document, be it by launching
MicrosoftWord itself or by composing an e-mail message through my
Outlook 2003, I have difficulty with getting
around the message field.
I can type in the subject field with no problems and can
arrow back and forth by character, word etc, but when I'm in the message
field for example, I can't
seem to do anything. Jaws will just read the line of
text that I'm on, but I am unable to arrow back and forth or up and
down. Very similar if I had the
virtual cursor turned off on a webpage. The same goes
for when I've got a Word document open. I can type fine and dandy, but
once I try using the various
say all commands, It's almost completely a no go. The
say all command works, but that's it.
I've tried switching the format from plane text to rtf
to html and it doesn't make a difference. I've also tried going from the
normal view to web etc in
the view menu and still nothing.
Sometimes, and for no reason, everything will work fine
and I can navegate text wit no problems, but the troubles explained
above happen more often than
not and because of this, I'm finding myself using JFW
11 for pretty much everything, but when I have to type something or
compose or respond to an e-mail,
I'm switching between the two JFW versions. I can't
figure out why sometimes things will work fine and others, it's just not
happening.
Is anyone else experiencing this and if so, were they
able to fix it?
I'm using Word 2003 and the Jaws versions mentioned
above.
Thanks,
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