Hi, it sounds to me like a problem with this web page and the interaction between jaws and the object model for internet explorer. Remember that jaws exposes this object model to get all info about web pages. If there is a problem on the page that is only encountered when jaws trys to access the object model the system could crash jaws internet explorer or the hole windows os might reboot. =20 Hope this helps. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nicholas Giudice Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 1:20 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: JFW questions, any suggestions? Hi all, Thanks for the ideas. I also thought maybe a full delete and re-install of the program might fix=20 things but not the case. A brand new install on a computer not previously=20 loaded with jaws resulted in the same behavior. As Karl indicated, which I failed to mention, the crashing occurs at the url: http://www.optionsxpress.com/ only when you log in (info not provided :) or enter a stock ticker on the=20 main page. I don't think it is a flash issue but am concerned about the potential xp=20 pro conflict. From a networking perspective XP pro is better than home and=20 is what I need to use for professional reasons. If it is in deed a problem=20 with Pro, it is weird that jaws version 5.0062 works fine and v6.0 is=20 choking, as both are operating in the same XP pro environment. Since I don't have XP home, I cannot try the same test between OS's.It=20 seems however that a simple solution of Pro being the problem cannot be=20 correct. It must be something in the interaction of v6.0 and the=20 OS. Given the proliferation of XP Pro boxes in non-home settings, it=20 seems like something JFW needs to fix under the hood (as we're not going to=20 get MS to fix their OS). I'm still in the same position though and want to fix these issues. Any=20 further suggestions on the previously mentioned problems? Thanks in advance, Nick *** original message ***Hi list, I have looked, albeit not exhaustively, at recent messages and these=20 questions have not been addressed. My apologies in advance if these matters=20 have already been discussed. I have tried upgrading jaws 3 times since v5.0062 and each time the=20 problems seem to increase for me. V6.0 has been the most buggy and the=20 following 3 issues are the most frustrating. 1. Jaws reliably crashes IE when I go to the website of my online broker:=20 http://www.optionsxpress.com/ I get the error: "Internet explorer has experienced a problem and needs to=20 shut down." If I don't dismiss the error message immediately, Jaws becomes=20 very unstable and crashes the computer. This reliably happens on 3=20 computers, all running xp Pro. If I shut down v6.0 and start v5.0062 before=20 entering the URL, everything is fine. Given that my accounts are access=20 through this website and that, in my opinion, it is the best online=20 brokerage for derivative trading, I am not willing to simply use another online trading service. Does anybody have an idea of what might be=20 happening and does this URL crash IE with jaws v6.0 on your computer? The=20 next 2 problems are less reliable, e.g. they don't occur every time with each of the computers, which makes it harder to diagnose but they seem to=20 always happen on my laptop under v6.0. 2. Many webpages become "stuck," so I cannot go back with the alt+left=20 arrow or enter another URL in the address bar. Once again, if I unload 6.0=20 and start up 5.0062, the problem disappears. 3. The find command in IE using 6.0 doesn't seem to work correctly. When I=20 search for something, e.g. the word "description" on an Ebay product=20 webpage, it claims there are no instances of this word on the page. But, the word is in fact there and searched for and found without problem by=20 v5.0062. What gives? If anybody can suggest anything I can try in terms of settings or other=20 tweaks, I would be appreciative. I would like to use some of the features=20 of the latest JFW product, and it seems silly that I need to continually use a version of the program that is 3 or more iterations older than the current version but it is the only thing that I have found to work. Thanks in advance, Nick -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. 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