RE: JFW on a thumb drive
- From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 14:05:49 -0700
Hi, yes the below would work just fine.
You could even put the folders with this information on the thun drive
that holds jfw.
Hth
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 1:47 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JFW on a thumb drive
Hi,
I may not be saying this right, but couldn't one put the video intercept
on
to a CD and
take it with one--assuming one had the administrative privileges to use
itt
ona new computer--
In other words, wouldn't that make the process a 2-step process and
hence
easier?
I saythis as I have turne down voluntteer opportunities due to hassle of
setting up JAWS to work a computer on site due to probability of not
getting
the same computer every time.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:17 PM
Subject: RE: JFW on a thumb drive
> Hi, yes Microsoft could infact put the vcm on the operating they could
> not how ever put the jfw video intercept on every computer because
> this is not a Microsoft component and it is updated every once and a
> while by fs. Hth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Angel
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:28 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: JFW on a thumb drive
>
>
> Couldn't Microsoft put these video intercept drivers or files or
> whatever
> they are on all their operating systems The sighted people wouldn't
> either
> know they were there or would be effected by their presents.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 11:56 AM
> Subject: Re: JFW on a thumb drive
>
>
>> Well explained, Bruce. But in the course of this discussion, I've
>> become painfully aware that this is evidence of an accessibility
>> problem yet to
> be
>> addressed and overcome, and it makes me sad and frustrated. If only
>> there were some simple method of allowing us Jaws and other screen
>> reader types
> to
>> temporarily use Jaws on other computers without either incurring
> additional
>> charges to ourselves nor ripping off Freedom Scientific in any way,
>> that would be truly desirable. I can barely express how important
>> and
>
>> enabling something like this would be. I can only wish that someone
>> will find a
> way
>> to make this all cohere and open up the world to us screen reader
>> people just that much more. How cool it would be to be able to visit
>> someone and be able to use their computer, just by plugging in a
>> little device that would leave no trace once disconnected.
>>
>> Darn, as they say in some quarters, these days.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 8:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: JFW on a thumb drive
>>
>>
>> Part of the problem is that for the thumb drive option to really be
>> effective, you need the video intercepts installed. So for you to
>> effectively use it in a library situation, you'd pretty much need
>> administrative rights for the library's computer, and I strongly
>> doubt
>
>> the library would give that to you. All three of the major screen
>> readers run up against this wall.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
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>>
>> On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> > If that process were made more simple, more could use it. Thanks
>> > for
> your
>> > post as that info just killed my idea of using
>> > the thumb drive to access computers in libraries when traveling.
>> > Hope the thumb drive option is improveddownt heroad.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clifford Blackwell"
>> > <cblackwell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:32 AM
>> > Subject: Re: JFW on a thumb drive
>> >
>> >
>> >> In reading the material on the link that Mike sent, it's sort of
>> >> a
> mixed
>> >> bag as far as usefulness. To make it fairly portible, you would
>> >> need your authorization on the dongle. In order to use it from
>> >> computer to computer, each computer would need to have two USB
>> >> ports available. I don't know if you could use a mini two port
>> >> hub for this to cut down
> on
>> >> machine ports or not.
>> >>
>> >> You can only use this version on Windows 2000 or XP machines and
>> >> you would first have to download two files, the video intercept
>> >> manager
> and
>> >> the dongle manager from files that you could carry on your thumb
> drive.
>> >> It sounds as if the synthesizer would have to be loaded on the
> computer
>> >> instead of the thumb drive too. Although, that may only apply to
>
>> >> synthesizers in addition to Eloquence.
>> >>
>> >> So it's not as good or as bad as first and second thought.
>> >>
>> >> Clifford
>> >>
>> >> > > > yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/7/2005 10:04:01 AM >>>
>> >> I'm having trouble imagining the practical scenarios for this
>> >> thumb drive. I hopefully thought it meant what an earlier poster
>> >> was hoping, that you could travel without your own computer and
>> >> temporarily install
> Jaws on
>> >> other
>> >> peoples' machines (I imagined something like a limit in terms of
> days
>> >> or
>> >> hours of usage, not the demo mode). But if the other machine has
> to
>> >> have an
>> >> authorization on it, wouldn't that imply that it also had *Jaws*
> on it
>> >>
>> >> already? In which case, of what value would the thumb drive deal
>> >> be? No, I haven't yet been to the site to see the explanation
>> >> there, but I'm skeptical that a question as basic as mine is
>> >> addressed. I presume that
> others
>> >> know
>> >> exactly what the meaning of all this is, but I can't figure out
> what's
>> >> being
>> >> described. And I don't understand what dongles are for, either.
> I
>> >> thought
>> >> they were for a similar purpose. To temporarily install jaws on
>> >> a computer not your own.
>> >>
>> >> If this is really clearly explained online, someone just please
>> >> tell
> me
>> >> and
>> >> I'll be glad to go there later.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >> , I'd
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews"
>> >> <dogriver@xxxxxxxx>
>> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 7:37 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: JFW on a thumb drive
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> According to the thumb drive FAQ, you need at least 128 MB free
>> >> on
>
>> >> the thumb drive. If the computer onto which you are putting JAWS
>> >> is not already authorized to run JAWS, the 40-minute demo will
>> >> run.
>> >>
>> >> Bruce
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> >> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: dogriver@xxxxxxxx
>> >> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>> >> http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time:
>> >> http://www.cornergas.com
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>> >> On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Clifford Blackwell wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hello list,
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't really know about this capacity in Jaws7.0. What size
>> >> > thumb drive would one need to use this ability? I presume you
>> >> > install
>> >> Jaws
>> >> > and authorize it on a thumb drive that you can take from
>> >> > computer to computer? Can you use a synthesizer other than
>> >> > Eloquence such as Dectalk Access 32?
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm interested in this option for use at home.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for any information you can give me. If there is a
>> >> > detailed description in the documentation, point me at it and
>> >> > I'll read
>> >> myself.
>> >> >
>> >> > Clifford
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