Yes Chip! That's correct. You need both J-Say and Naturally Speaking. The most inexpensive package of both J-Say and Naturally Speaking costs $345.00 plus $180.00 or $525.00 plus $15.00 shipping. The most expensive package right now includes Naturally Speaking Professional instead of Naturally Speaking Preferred and that package cost $960.00. It's a serious investment but it does work. Please don't shoot the messenger. There are two other packages I know of for JFW that can for the most part be considered scripts allowing access to two professional music production applications and they each cost $289.00, just for the scripts and the people who use them think they're worth every bit. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Bat Arhonious Software, www.chirpingbat.com, www.chirpingbat.com -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx