Yes, you need to be on a webpage first. Then do the steps outlined below or
in an earlier post.
----- Original Message -----
From: "ryan west" <ryanwest47@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: JFW & Audible
The step you seemed to have missed in the directions was to open up a web site first. Then open config. If you do that you will see what was described to you!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: JFW & Audible
Hi,
I've gone into the HTML options in Configuration manager in my Jaws 6.0, and
I'm afraid it doesn't look as you describe. There isn't a miscellaneous
section, for instance, but a series of tabs, which I moved among using
Control Tab. As my issue here has to do with how a cretin type of link is
spoken, I went into the links tab and unchecked the default-checked item
"say link type." Then I saved (this was in the default file, of course) and
went to a familiar site, audible.com, to see if this had done the trick.
But no, as I looked at the links, I still got mouse over link and so forth
spoken.
So if you, or anyone else, can refine these instructions as to how to turn
off the mouse over links thing, either in the configuration manager or in
the Insert V method, please make suggestions. Or, as I said, if anyone
simply knows what the topic would be called in Jaws help, I'll go find that
section of the help documentation.
Thanks.
'm afrai
----- Original Message ----- From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: JFW & Audible
Hi, if you want to turn off the mouse over message, you can do it through
the config. manager. First, go to a webpage. Then press insert six. That's
six on the number row, not the numeric keypad. Press alt s for settings.
Oops, I forgot a step. Press insert six, then press control plus shift, plus
d for the default. Then press your alt s for settings. Arrow down to html
settings. Press enter. I think it is in the misc tab. You want to find where
it says something like announce elements checkbox, and uncheck it. Tab to
ok. Press alt f4, and press enter on yes to save.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: JFW & Audible
rose,
I confess that I'm not as expert as you appear to be with these settings,
and I don't understand what you said in a couple of messages.
What category do these settings fall into in the Configuration Manager and
the Insert V options? How do you set Jaws to ignore the announcement of
mouse-over link and just have it say "link?" I'd love to turn off a lot
of
that because, on the Web sites I frequent, I don't think anything vital is
contained in those extra messages someone can see by touching the link
with
the mouse pointer. I'm pretty sure it's all just redundant, pleasant
stuff
to induce me to click on something by describing the pleasures and
benefits
to be gotten by clicking on the link. Maybe this trick is used to
showcase
really substantive information somewhere else, but I don't think that's
the
case for anywhere I'm likely to browse, most days. Just complaining.
So, how do you do it. Or, if you prefer, which part of the Jaws help
documentation do you look in to find instruction? that would be fine with
me, too. Not asking you to compose instructions here.
thank you.
I say, that applies to the sites I frequent. nedd benfits
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: JFW & Audible
I personalize web pages as I get to them based on the content I need to hear. I only make a couple of changes in the configuration manager, usually related to graphics, I think I generally set it to read labeled graphics and I change my voice scheme to rent-a-crowd. All the rest of the stuff I do through the verbosity insert V menu if I don't plan to revisit the page often, or through the personalize shift-insert-V menu.
Rose Combs rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 1:11 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JFW & Audible
Rose,
So you ou do this rather than going into one of the Configuration Manager menus and making a global adjustment? Or is it an alternative to globally turning off that type of link?
Also, I'm assuming that this doesn't disable or delete those links, but rather just makes them announce themselves more plainly. Am I correct? I certainly don't wish to make all the links on the Audible site disappear! I just want them to shut up.
Thanks.
lobablly ome
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:47 PM
Subject: RE: JFW & Audible
Press insert-shift V and you will hear personalize web page or something similar, then three is the usual list where in you press the space bar on any item to change its status.
Rose Combs rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:11 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JFW & Audible
this sounds like a very appealing option. I'm not familiar with where it is you make these settings, Rose, either as defaults or specific to a particular URL. I certainly don't mind reading the instructions, but could you tell me which topic to look for in Jaws help in order to learn about
this feature?
Thanks very much, Daniel
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: RE: JFW & Audible
This is where the personalize web page feature is great, you can turn off the mouse-over links for pages where you don't need them by going to read elements and turning it off or on, on pages where they are helpful you can leave the feature running. I leave my configuration set to show the defaults and do personalize web pages for pages where either the mouse-over does not do anything or where I don't need to hear them.
Rose Combs rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:50 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JFW & Audible
Wow, I'm really glad you mentioned your solution, because I had no idea
1.
that youcould turn off the mouse-over links that now announce themselves
all
over the Web, and 2. that if you did, you'd wipe out Jaws's ability to
see
most links on some pages. I am an Audible customer, and on the audible
site, as on some others with links of this type, I've nearly blocked out
the
distracting announcement while waiting to hear the actual name of the
link.
Hard to explain. In any case, thanks for reporting this experience.
anhy 2ith
----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Gillard" <kgillard@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: JFW & Audible
Well I figured it out. I needed to adjust the config manager to accommodate those pesky mouse over links on Odible. I turned off graphical links in order to browse EBay faster which hid the important links on the Audible sight..
erk! ! Keith
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: JFW & Audible
thisHi, I am still using Jaws 6.0, and haven't yet installed jaws 6.20. Atpoint, everything on the Audible site is as accessible as it was formewith earlier versions. Your inquiry is the first time I've heardanyoneAudiblesay that the update may have ruined their Audible access. Any otherusers here who've also downloaded and installed version 6.20? It'shardButto believe that it could mess up the accessibility of that site so much.like Myif it does, that's a serious problem for a lot of Jaws users, I'd say.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Gillard" <kgillard@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:20 PM
Subject: JFW & Audible
hello,
Since I have installed jfw 6.02 I have not been able to find linksaccount, Herd programs, add to shopping cart etc on Audible's website.count?Has anyone else experienced this phenomena? Is Audible down for the
Thanks...Keith
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