Re: JFW & Audible

Hi,
I've gone into the HTML options in Configuration manager in my Jaws 6.0, and 
I'm afraid it doesn't look as you describe.  There isn't a miscellaneous 
section, for instance, but a series of tabs, which I moved among using 
Control Tab.  As my issue here has to do with how a cretin type of link is 
spoken, I went into the links tab and unchecked the default-checked item 
"say link type."  Then I saved (this was in the default file, of course) and 
went to a familiar site, audible.com, to see if this had done the trick. 
But no, as I looked at the links, I still got mouse over link and so forth 
spoken.

So if you, or anyone else, can refine these instructions as to how to turn 
off the mouse over links thing, either in the configuration manager or in 
the Insert V method, please make suggestions.  Or, as I said, if anyone 
simply knows what the topic would be called in Jaws help, I'll go find that 
section of the help documentation.

Thanks.
'm afrai
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: JFW & Audible


Hi, if you want to turn off the mouse over message, you can do it through
the config. manager. First, go to a webpage. Then press insert six. That's
six on the number row, not the numeric keypad. Press alt s for settings.
Oops, I forgot a step. Press insert six, then press control plus shift, plus
d for the default. Then press your alt s for settings. Arrow down to html
settings. Press enter. I think it is in the misc tab. You want to find where
it says something like announce elements checkbox, and uncheck it. Tab to
ok. Press alt f4, and press enter on yes to save.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: JFW & Audible


> rose,
> I confess that I'm not as expert as you appear to be with these settings,
> and I don't understand what you said in a couple of messages.
>
> What category do these settings fall into in the Configuration Manager and
> the Insert V options?  How do you set Jaws to ignore the announcement of
> mouse-over link and just have it say "link?"  I'd love to turn off a lot
> of
> that because, on the Web sites I frequent, I don't think anything vital is
> contained in those extra messages someone can see by touching the link
> with
> the mouse pointer.  I'm pretty sure it's all just redundant, pleasant
> stuff
> to induce me to click on something by describing the pleasures and
> benefits
> to be gotten by clicking on the link.  Maybe this trick is used to
> showcase
> really substantive information somewhere else, but I don't think that's
> the
> case for anywhere I'm likely to browse, most days.  Just complaining.
>
> So, how do you do it.  Or, if you prefer, which part of the Jaws help
> documentation do you look in to find instruction?  that would be fine with
> me, too.  Not asking you to compose instructions here.
>
> thank you.
> I say, that applies to the sites I frequent. nedd benfits
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 9:46 AM
> Subject: RE: JFW & Audible
>
>
> I personalize web pages as I get to them based on the content I need to
> hear.  I only make a couple of changes in the configuration manager,
> usually related to graphics, I think I generally set it to read labeled
> graphics and I change my voice scheme to rent-a-crowd.  All the rest of
> the stuff I do through the verbosity insert V menu if I don't plan to
> revisit the page often, or through the personalize shift-insert-V menu.
>
>
>
> Rose Combs
> rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Yardbird
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 1:11 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: JFW & Audible
>
>
> Rose,
>
> So you ou do this rather than going into one of the Configuration
> Manager
> menus and making a global adjustment?  Or is it an alternative to
> globally
> turning off that type of link?
>
> Also, I'm assuming that this doesn't disable or delete those links, but
> rather just makes them announce themselves more plainly.  Am I correct?
> I
> certainly don't wish to make all the links on the Audible site
> disappear!  I
> just want them to shut up.
>
>
> Thanks.
> lobablly ome
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:47 PM
> Subject: RE: JFW & Audible
>
>
> Press insert-shift V and you will hear personalize web page or something
> similar, then three is the usual list where in you press the space bar
> on any item to change its status.
>
>
> Rose Combs
> rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Yardbird
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:11 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: JFW & Audible
>
>
> this sounds like a very appealing option.  I'm not familiar with where
> it is
> you make these settings, Rose, either as defaults or specific to a
> particular URL.  I certainly don't mind reading the instructions, but
> could
> you tell me which topic to look for in Jaws help in order to learn about
>
> this feature?
>
> Thanks very much,
> Daniel
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 11:55 AM
> Subject: RE: JFW & Audible
>
>
> This is where the personalize web page feature is great, you can turn
> off the mouse-over links for pages where you don't need them by going to
> read elements and turning it off or on, on pages where they are helpful
> you can leave the feature running.  I leave my configuration set to show
> the defaults and do personalize web pages for pages where either the
> mouse-over does not do anything or where I don't need to hear them.
>
>
>
> Rose Combs
> rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Yardbird
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:50 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: JFW & Audible
>
>
> Wow, I'm really glad you mentioned your solution, because I had no idea
> 1.
> that youcould turn off the mouse-over links that now announce themselves
> all
> over the Web, and 2.  that if you did, you'd wipe out Jaws's ability to
> see
> most links on some pages.  I am an Audible customer, and on the audible
> site, as on some others with links of this type, I've nearly blocked out
> the
> distracting announcement while waiting to hear the actual name of the
> link.
> Hard to explain.  In any case, thanks for reporting this experience.
> anhy 2ith
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Keith Gillard" <kgillard@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:35 AM
> Subject: Re: JFW & Audible
>
>
> Well I figured it out.  I needed to adjust the config manager to
> accommodate
> those pesky mouse over links on Odible.  I turned off graphical links in
> order to browse EBay faster which hid the important links on the Audible
> sight..
>
> erk! !
> Keith
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:27 PM
> Subject: Re: JFW & Audible
>
>
>> Hi,
>> I am still using Jaws 6.0, and haven't yet installed jaws 6.20. At
> this
>> point,  everything on the Audible site is as accessible as it was for
> me
>> with earlier versions.  Your inquiry is the first time I've heard
> anyone
>> say
>> that the update may have ruined their Audible access.  Any other
> Audible
>> users here who've also downloaded and installed version 6.20?  It's
> hard
>> to
>> believe that it could mess up the accessibility of that site so much.
> But
>> if it does, that's a serious problem for a lot of Jaws users, I'd say.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Keith Gillard" <kgillard@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:20 PM
>> Subject: JFW & Audible
>>
>>
>> hello,
>>
>> Since I have installed jfw 6.02 I have not been able to find links
> like My
>> account, Herd programs, add to shopping cart etc on Audible's web
> site.
>> Has
>> anyone else experienced this phenomena?  Is Audible down for the
> count?
>>
>> Thanks...Keith
>>
>>
>>
>>
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