Re: JFW & Audible

P.S.

If hardly anyone wears pleated walking shorts anymore, I would've been 
satisfied to buy one of the plain front type.  Though there seemed to be two 
or three different displays of them!  I had no idea what the differences 
between all those might've been.  Nobody said nothin'.  but anyway, I would 
have gone with the flow, as the saying went, just to avoid having to try 
*again* to find them.  That isn't much fun for me, having to arrange with a 
friend to go through all that every time I just want to go to the store and 
pick up some ordinary thing, but don't want to spend half the day on the bus 
and then be dependent on young clerks who either don't know their stock or 
can't communicate clearly, or both.  So what I mean is I would have bought 
what was there just to have enough shorts for the summer, if I'd known it 
would be hard to find the other style.  No big deal, more or less.  it's the 
shopping that's the hassle, and you're the easiest of all my friends to go 
shopping for many things with because we communicate so easily and, well, 
the whole thing.  your mom isn't really available to be one of those 
shopping friends anymore since Igor (you know how it goes with him, I guess) 
plus all those grueling hours at the externship at that hospital.  And Tanya 
(of Arik and T.) has the kid, the job, the husband, the in-laws, and so 
forth.  And my guy friends, Russian or American, simply aren't much help 
shopping for clothes,  Like no help.  Actually, Jim doesn't even live here, 
so that's out, and Paul, well, when he's here, he helps me with other 
stuff.Same way young Ilya from Samara helps me and spends a good bit of time 
and energy with my computer problems, and going through the mail as we used 
to do.  So I don't try to drag him shopping, either, but again, it's more 
effort with him if I do.  than it is with you, I mean.

it's all so complicated, just planning how to get a couple of pairs of 
shorts, or so many perfectly ordinary things.  So that's where I was coming 
from.  If only the clerk had been more expressive, like an older, better 
educated employee or manager often is, and just say "You know, hardly anyone 
wears pleated shorts say no more, although they still make long pants with 
pleats.  That's why we don't have any pleated shorts.  You'll probably have 
a hard time finding them anywhere these days.  Are you sure you have to have 
pleats?"

And I would have said, "Oh, shit.  Too bad.  No, okay, I'll try on a couple 
of these and if they fit, that'll be fine."

See?  That happens when you go to some stores, but not ones with really 
young clerks and you're older so they won't even say anything to you because 
you're older, and all that.

anyway, that's what happened.  Just bitching (sorry if that's not P.C.; how 
about "kvetching," in Yiddish,maybe?).  Venting.

Just spent half the day with Ilya Roytburd getting office supplies, a new 
mop and bucket, and a new nylon duffel bag for my laundry,the old one having 
a huge rip in it through which clothes start falling out.  But it's so much 
time and effort, plus you have to recruit a willing friend... ack.  It's 
hard not to wish I could still just jump into my Tercel (or something newer, 
of course), go run these errands, choose things for myself, and come back 
home just like that (snaps fingers).

Anyway, I understand about you working and everything, and I sympathize.So 
whenever you have time to write or, by this time for sure, call and talk, 
do.  Whenever that may be, I'll be really happy to hear from you.

Still want to know what "goty" dykes would be, for God's sake.  What the 
hell does that mean?  And how do you say it?  Hey, don't get pissed off.  At 
least I'm giving you a hard time about the "goty" part, not the "dyke" part, 
ponyatno?  <laughing>

Love,
Joel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: JFW & Audible


I personalize web pages as I get to them based on the content I need to
hear.  I only make a couple of changes in the configuration manager,
usually related to graphics, I think I generally set it to read labeled
graphics and I change my voice scheme to rent-a-crowd.  All the rest of
the stuff I do through the verbosity insert V menu if I don't plan to
revisit the page often, or through the personalize shift-insert-V menu.



Rose Combs
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 1:11 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JFW & Audible


Rose,

So you ou do this rather than going into one of the Configuration
Manager
menus and making a global adjustment?  Or is it an alternative to
globally
turning off that type of link?

Also, I'm assuming that this doesn't disable or delete those links, but
rather just makes them announce themselves more plainly.  Am I correct?
I
certainly don't wish to make all the links on the Audible site
disappear!  I
just want them to shut up.


Thanks.
lobablly ome
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:47 PM
Subject: RE: JFW & Audible


Press insert-shift V and you will hear personalize web page or something
similar, then three is the usual list where in you press the space bar
on any item to change its status.


Rose Combs
rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:11 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JFW & Audible


this sounds like a very appealing option.  I'm not familiar with where
it is
you make these settings, Rose, either as defaults or specific to a
particular URL.  I certainly don't mind reading the instructions, but
could
you tell me which topic to look for in Jaws help in order to learn about

this feature?

Thanks very much,
Daniel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: RE: JFW & Audible


This is where the personalize web page feature is great, you can turn
off the mouse-over links for pages where you don't need them by going to
read elements and turning it off or on, on pages where they are helpful
you can leave the feature running.  I leave my configuration set to show
the defaults and do personalize web pages for pages where either the
mouse-over does not do anything or where I don't need to hear them.



Rose Combs
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:50 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JFW & Audible


Wow, I'm really glad you mentioned your solution, because I had no idea
1.
that youcould turn off the mouse-over links that now announce themselves
all
over the Web, and 2.  that if you did, you'd wipe out Jaws's ability to
see
most links on some pages.  I am an Audible customer, and on the audible
site, as on some others with links of this type, I've nearly blocked out
the
distracting announcement while waiting to hear the actual name of the
link.
Hard to explain.  In any case, thanks for reporting this experience.
anhy 2ith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Gillard" <kgillard@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: JFW & Audible


Well I figured it out.  I needed to adjust the config manager to
accommodate
those pesky mouse over links on Odible.  I turned off graphical links in
order to browse EBay faster which hid the important links on the Audible
sight..

erk! !
Keith

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: JFW & Audible


> Hi,
> I am still using Jaws 6.0, and haven't yet installed jaws 6.20. At
this
> point,  everything on the Audible site is as accessible as it was for
me
> with earlier versions.  Your inquiry is the first time I've heard
anyone
> say
> that the update may have ruined their Audible access.  Any other
Audible
> users here who've also downloaded and installed version 6.20?  It's
hard
> to
> believe that it could mess up the accessibility of that site so much.
But
> if it does, that's a serious problem for a lot of Jaws users, I'd say.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Keith Gillard" <kgillard@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:20 PM
> Subject: JFW & Audible
>
>
> hello,
>
> Since I have installed jfw 6.02 I have not been able to find links
like My
> account, Herd programs, add to shopping cart etc on Audible's web
site.
> Has
> anyone else experienced this phenomena?  Is Audible down for the
count?
>
> Thanks...Keith
>
>
>
>
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