Re: JAWS not saying letter f while backspacing in Outlook Express

  • From: "Charles Couey" <couey_c@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 08:23:40 -0600

David,

I had not read this message when I sent my previous reply.

Sorry.

Charles

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS not saying letter f while backspacing in Outlook Express


> <giggle> because it was erased.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:09 AM
> Subject: Re: JAWS not saying letter f while backspacing in Outlook Express
>
>
> Just now, when I backspaced over the latter f and checked to see what code
> was there, I got 0
>
> Sincerely Yours,
>
> The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> Ray
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marshall F. Scott" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: JAWS not saying letter f while backspacing in Outlook Express
>
>
> Hello,
> Has anyone positioning the cursor over the blank and seeing what ASCII 
> code
> is actaully there?
> Marshall
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dennis" <dennis.cornelison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 8:23 AM
> Subject: Re: JAWS not saying letter f while backspacing in Outlook Express
>
>
>>i just did the dictionary manniger fix and it works.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Robert Hebert" <roberthebert@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: JAWS not saying letter f while backspacing in Outlook 
>> Express
>>
>>
>>> Jack, I must say that I was quite skeptical also until I tried it myself
>>> and it
>>> was partially the case for me (see my prior posts).
>>> I have, however fixed the problem by adding a word to the default
>>> dictionary.
>>> The word I added was the letter f. The word I replaced it with was "ef".
>>> (e f
>>> written together.
>>> Now when I type the letter f in upper or lower case and back space
>>> through
>>> it,
>>> now it says the letter f in all cases.
>>> Before I did the dictionary entry, the letter f acted differently when
>>> backspacing through it depending on whether or not I was writing in html
>>> or
>>> plain text. I would suspect that for some reason jaws does not recognize
>>> the
>>> binary code for that letter in certain instances. And even that being
>>> said
>>> why
>>> would the dictionary recognize f when it was saying blank. I do not have
>>> the
>>> answer to that question. Frankly, when I tried the dictionary
>>> modification
>>> I did
>>> not believe it would work but it does and right now, that's fine for me.
>>> It's
>>> certainly not a big deal--I'm just compulsive enough that I like to get
>>> things
>>> working if I can.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 6:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: JAWS not saying letter f while backspacing in Outlook
>>> Express
>>>
>>>
>>> I've tried this with my current system.  I have Windows XP Home and Jaws
>>> 5.10, the august release.  And I don't have this problem at all.  I know
>>> that's no help.  But I don't know why Jaws would chose to not see a
>>> letter
>>> because you're back spacing it out.   Jack
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Steve" <PapaSchnelle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: JAWS not saying letter f while backspacing in Outlook
>>> Express
>>>
>>>
>>>> It does it to me also with Jaws 6 and X P
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Robert Hebert" <roberthebert@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 12:33 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: JAWS not saying letter f while backspacing in Outlook
>>>> Express
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have hit control-r to this message and type the leffer f and from
>>>> back-facing
>>>>> through " f" I heard 'f'. I have messages set to "html--wonder if it
>>>>> would
>>>> make
>>>>> a difference using plain text?
>>>>> Incidentally, I heard the "f" each time I back-spaced through it but
>>>> replaced it
>>>>> again. However, when I typed this as a new message and sent it to
>>>>> myself,
>>>> I
>>>>> heard "blank" instead of the letter F.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:19 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: JAWS not saying letter f while backspacing in Outlook
>>>>> Express
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I hear blank in either case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Robert Hebert" <roberthebert@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 1:08 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: JAWS not saying letter f while backspacing in Outlook
>>>>> Express
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Try the following:
>>>>> First, I did a reply (control-r) to the message post and typed all the
>>>>> f's
>>>> I
>>>>> wanted in every conceivable circumstance and when back-spacing through
>>>> them
>>>>> I
>>>>> heard the letter F.
>>>>> However, when composing a new message, the letter F was not 
>>>>> pronounced,
>>>>> instead,
>>>>> I heard only "blank.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:17 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: JAWS not saying letter f while backspacing in Outlook
>>>>> Express
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good catch,  I was wondering why I have this issue but didn't realize
>>>>> it
>>>> was
>>>>> related to f.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:19 AM
>>>>> Subject: JAWS not saying letter f while backspacing in Outlook Express
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>     I notice that when I'm typing a message in Outlook Express, and if
>>>>> I
>>>>> type words which contain the letter f, JAWS will not say the letter f
>>>>> if
>>>>> I
>>>>> backspace over it.  Instead of saying the letter f as I backspace over
>>>>> it,
>>>>> JAWS says blank.  JAWS says every other letter though.  Is anybody 
>>>>> else
>>>>> noticing this?  IF so, how did you solve it, if you did?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I should note that this does not happen with Microsoft Word, Notepad,
>>>>> or
>>>>> HJpad.  oh, one more thing, I make sure the OE window is maximized. 
>>>>> It
>>>>> still happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely Yours,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Constantly BAREFOOTED
>>>>> Ray
>>>>>
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