Hi to all on this topic. I agree ok at 1st I liked Research it and when I listened to that podcast I thought that is a cool feature but I must admit I hardly even use the keystroke. In my personal opinion, I am glad that I waited until jaws 12 came out. The virtual Ribbon was worth the waiting for! Now I can use office 2007 with out avoiding it any more. I wonder why FS didn't fix that when it 1st came out. Hopefully it will continue to improve over the coming year. I'll admit I couldn't see anything that was benifitual in jaws 11 and at the end of the day what's the point of research it if you don't do the research your self! LOL
Thanks Daniel -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 10:39 PM To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: JAWS getting better or worse!
Dear Cy, Well Said! Research it? Research it? I ain't got no Research it! I ain't got to use no stinkin Research it! LOL! With Best Regards, Alan Miami, Florida Alan Dicey, President United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"United States Braille Chess Association Home Page: http://AmericanBlindChess.org!----- Original Message ----- From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 4:52 PM Subject: RE: JAWS getting better or worse!Well fellas, I agree. Keep that old Windows 98 machine.Things were a whole lot simpler back then because we were not trying to beall things to all people. (LOLLOLLOL)Just remember what happened to Julius Caesar when he tried to be all thingsto all people. (LOLLOLLOL) Cy, The Anasazi -----Original Message-----From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOf Farfar Carlson Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:38 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JAWS getting better or worse! Alan,Good point, however I would think that after all those years, and the factthat you've made no changes to the operating system nor JAWS on that oldGateway, might have some impact on its relative stability. Keeping a simpleunencumbered version of JAWS is the path to happiness. Don't let that computer go. And I see you still have Openbook 7. Keep that, too. I found several significant problems with OB9. They pulled that cookie out of the oven too soon.I continue to rant at how "bloated" is becoming our beloved JAWS, with allthe features, some of which I consider frivolous. Of course my opinion is worth every penny or Kopeck or Guilder or Pound you might pay for it, and therefore worth nothing to anyone who has a different opinion. I've asked FS specifically to start branching out JAWS into three basicproducts (and price then appropriately) -- one for speech, one for Braille,and one for magnification. Then the code you pay for and receive is optimized for your requirements and not hobbled to make it a cure-all for all ailments. Of course each "module" should allow merging of the other module to allow dual capability. And of course it was appreciated and considered as not being a suggestionthat would result in any improvement. So there I go. Another opinion worthevery penny. Alan, thanks for providing me yet another soap box to step up onto. Dave Composed in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 12:38 Subject: JAWS getting better or worse! Dear Dorothy, and List Members,I did not want to give any of you fine folks the impression I am a cave man, and just using a old Gateway machine which I purchased in early 1999, which runs Windows 98 (first Edition) JAWS 5 and I think Open Book 6, but I alsohave a Dell with XP-Home with JAWS 11 latest updates, and Open Book 7.02.The point here especially for Dave is that things have not gotten better forBlind computer users, Microsoft Windows users, nor JAWS users, they have gotten worse, as I have not had a single problem with my old computer's configuration for 11 years.Can any say that about what they are using right now, with JAWS 12, Windows7? Not I!! LOL! With Best Regards, Alan Miami, Florida Alan Dicey, President United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!" United States Braille Chess Association Home Page: http://AmericanBlindChess.org----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <Dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>To: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 3:20 PM Subject: Re: Hello Dave I met Ted Henter in 1990it was interesting, and I think another list member met him as well I cannot spell his name but something like John fiorant,no but I will find it he is retired and seems to have known everyone. the list can be a bit stuffy at times, interesting seeing how many are using dell computers, having had dreadful service and a Drive failure plus fact when engineercame he put in another faulty western digital, in all I have had to pay alocal engineer a great deal to set it up again,then heard Dell made bigprofits and are pulling out of Ireland now the Irish economy is sinking, I have a good VIP friend in Herefordshire who once said tome 7, and a priorviglen XP desktop "pack them up and find a courier and send to me and Iwill do a rebuild, well of the viglen he knew,the engineers were making amess of things, re vintage computers, the maker of your windows 98, musthave been good, my late friend who loved his windows 98 had his pc custom made by a local small 2 man business.regarding booths current dell desktopsorry I have a broken shoulder and typing is very hard, I was thinking like some cars, they get a good name and on usa I think a song was sungabout Chevrolet57----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 5:59 PM Subject: Hello Dave I met Ted Henter in 1990Hello Dave, I apoligize if my message was not apropiate for the list, but I thought the person said he had been using JAWS since the 1980's, and when I met Ted Henter, in late 1990, almost 1991, he was still developing JAWS. It had not been released yet! Thank you! With Best Regards, Alan Miami, Florida Alan Dicey, President United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!" United States Braille Chess Association Home Page: http://AmericanBlindChess.org----- Original Message ----- From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 12:41 PM Subject: Re: I met Ted Henter in 1990Alan, What's the context of your message? I find nothing to tell me why you posted this reply. Fill me in. DaveComposed in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 06:43 Subject: I met Ted Henter in 1990 Dear Friends,Well, I met Ted Henter in November 1990 when he came to a Blind ComputerUsers Group I had founded here in Miami. He basically came to say he was developing a Screen Reading software. I must tell you, I did not take him very serious, nor did I think many of the nearly 30 attendents didI actually chuckled to myself of course, when he took the speakers standandstarted his presentation, "How does this guy think he can go up againstDigital Equipment Company, DEC Talk, the IBM Screen Reader, Giant corporations that could throw as much money into their Screen reading software programs as they cared to". I had not a clue that he was on to something fantastic! I remember him as a very kind soft spoken, cordial gentleman. I am so glad it worked out for him, and us! With Best Regards, Alan Miami, Florida Alan Dicey, President United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!" United States Braille Chess Association Home Page: http://AmericanBlindChess.org----- Original Message ----- From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 9:17 AM Subject: Re: new on the listHello Bob! Welcome to the list. Since the 1980s? What version of JAWS are you currently using? Some of us are using JAWS 12 on various platforms and have noticed some vagaries in operation. What's your experience? Dave Composed in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California----- Original Message ----- From: "bob mathews" <bmathews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 22:10 Subject: new on the list Hi all, I am new on the list, but have been a JAWS user since the 1980tys... 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