RE: JAWS continuing to talk

Dave, did I understand you to say this will work when JFW freezes or
hangs?  We have some Internet apps that are notorious for causing this
problem.  I can usually resolve it by finding and dumping the offending
app with narrator, but that means losing every Internet app, and doesn't
always work. It wouldn't hurt to have another alternative for those
really bad snafus.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:20 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS continuing to talk

Hello Adrian and all,

Here's my solution to "LockJAWS", other than a Tech-tetanus" shot:

Create a shortcut on your desktop, with a name like "Kill JAWS".

In the target field put the following:

%windir%\system32\taskkill.exe /f /im jfw.exe

Then save it. I don't bother with a hotkey since I don't ever want to 
accidentally invoke this command.

When JAWS locks up, you usually don't have any speech.

Press Windows +M to minimize all applications to the task bar.

Then press the letter "K". Hopefully you have no other desktop icons 
beginning with the letter K. IF you do, try to resolve this, or pick a 
different name for "Kill JAWS" like #Kill JAWS" or "$Kill JAWS".

After you've pressed that unique letter, press the enter key.

JAWS will be immediately stopped in its tracks in just a couple seconds.
I 
don't get any "are you sure" message using this method.

Then Use Ctrl+Alt+J or press the letter J and Enter as usual to launch
JAWS 
again.

Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 09:05
Subject: RE: JAWS continuing to talk


There is a way short of rebooting to get JAWS back up that Dave alluded
to--the kill JAWS method. Following directions given a long time ago on
this
list, I put that icon in my desktop. It is the only icon whose name
begins
with k. So when JAWS disappears and wont' come back, I press Window-m to
get
focus into the desktop, press k, then enter. In my case, it brings up
JAWS
speaking the message asking  if I'm sure I want to close JAWS. I press
escape, and I'm back in business. Note that often I've tried to close
JAWS
with a view to reopening it, so that may explain why this message
appears.
But it isn't spoken until I've gone the "kill JAWS" route.

As you can tell, I'm skipping past the important step of how you create
"kill JAWS." If no one else follows up, I'll try to reconstruct it.
However,
Dave and others are much better at tech questions than I am, so I'm
hoping
they will provide the explanation they're more qualified to give.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of The Scarlet Wombat
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:50 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS continuing to talk

Dorothy is correct. I use Jaws 9 with XP Pro and it is an occasional
problem
with that, and was with v8 and v7. I never associated it with white
print on
a black background, but that might be a factor. I usually just press the
power button for six seconds and reboot things when it happens as no
other
key combination will work at all. It is as if Jaws possesses every bit
of
the machine.

Dan

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