Re: JAWS Update Now Available

You say consecutive. Okay, so does that mean that if you had an SMA for two 
upgrades and decided to skip Version 9, then you could hang in there and get 
10 and 11, instead? Rather than 9 and 10? Interesting. I always assumed they 
made you apply the SMA to each release, not skipping one or even more until 
you decided to use it. Interesting.
If that's the case, what are these guys saying about how they'd be wasting 
their SMA's on Version 9 unless some of the glitches in Version 8 aren't 
fixed? I'm not understanding that.

Thanks.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blake Sinnett" <frequency660@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available


I'm afraid it doesn't matter whether you install an upgrade or not. If you
buy an SMA, you're entitled to two consecutive upgrades.


From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:16:09 -0700

Rick,

I'm not disagreeing with you about being disappointed with Jaws in the way
you express. But I'm not sure what you're saying about the SMA. Now, I may
be wrong, but here's how I thought the SMA arrangement worked. I thought you
buy an SMA to entitle you to the next two full Jaws releases, and if you
choose not to download and install one or both of them, no credit rolls over
so you can wait for a later version to try. In other words, let's say you
have an SMA that is supposed to be good for version 9 and 10. I thought that
if you never install 9, for instance, then all you'll have left on the SMA
will be version 10, and so forth.

Now, if I'm wrong, and buying an SMA entitles the user to any two upgrades,
or something like that, please explain. I'm afraid I'm not expressing the
question quite right, but maybe someone can see what I'm asking. You and one
other person have spoken resentfully about how you feel you'll be wasting
your SMA credit for Version 9 if Jaws 8 is never perfected before 9 is
released. Please understand that I'm not arguing with you. I honestly don't
not what the two of you are saying.

thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available


Hi Chris,

If FS releases a version 9 before version 8 is fixed I think we have a right
to cry foul here.  This problem honestly should have been fixed by now as
the other screen readers don't suffer from the problem, so why should Jaws
and why should we put up with having to use another SMA to get a fix that
should have been fixed by now.

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available


Hi Darrell

Thanks for that, I believe I'll be sticking with my current version,
as none of the fixes apply to any programs I use on a daily
basis.   Let us hope that the blank virtual buffer thing is fixed
when 9.0 is released in September, according to the fs
website.  Besides, this version i have now works well enough and we
all know that old thing that says, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.


At 03:54 PM 6/21/2007, you wrote:
 >Hello Chris,
 >
 >I and others can confirm the issue still exists.  Quite disappointing.
 >
 >Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
 >Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
 >another person.
 >Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
 >Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
 >----- Original Message -----
 >From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>
 >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:41 PM
 >Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
 >
 >
 >hi.  any chance that the problems with the blank virtual buffers have
 >been fixed in build 2173?
 >I don't want to download this new version and install it only to find
 >that I'm still gonna have to load up internet explorer a couple times
 >before it works properly.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >At 02:55 PM 6/21/2007, you wrote:
 > >Hi Rick and all,
 > >
 > >So far, it does seem a bit more responsive.
 > >
 > >Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
 > >Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
 > >another person.
 > >Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
 > >Check out high quality telecommunications services at
http://ld.net/?nu7i
 > >----- Original Message -----
 > >From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 > >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:46 PM
 > >Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
 > >
 > >
 > >It's working much better here with Outlook Express as well.
 > >Not perfect yet but much better than build 2107 in my opinion.
 > >
 > >Rick
 > >
 > >Rick
 > >
 > >----- Original Message -----
 > >From: "Jeffrey Shockley" <jawswizard@xxxxxxxxx>
 > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 > >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 3:36 PM
 > >Subject: RE: JAWS Update Now Available
 > >
 > >
 > >Hi,
 > >Since I have installed the latest update, I have noticed that JAWS works
 > >a
 > >lot better with Outlook 2002 than it did in the last build. Before, when
 > >I
 > >would open a message, JAWS would take a long time to even open it and
get
 > >me
 > >to the point where I could start reading a message. Now, it just opens
 > >quickly like It used to and I can read messages without any problems.
 > >Cheers,
 > >Jeffrey
 > >
 > >Check out my blog!
 > >The URL is
 > >http://jeffreyshockley.livejournal.com
 > >"You learn something new every day!"
 > >"You can do anything if you put your mind to it!"
 > >
 > >
 > >-----Original Message-----
 > >From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
 > >Behalf
 > >Of Rick Harmon
 > >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:50 PM
 > >To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 > >Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
 > >
 > >
 > >The OE bugs seem to be better here so far.  I don't have near as many
 > >hang
 > >ups when pressing delete on a message while reading to  go to the next
 > >message.  In the last build I had to stop speech every time before doing
 > >this or jaws would stop speaking.  So lets hope things are getting
fixed.
 > >
 > >Rick
 > >
 > >----- Original Message -----
 > >From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 > >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:29 PM
 > >Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
 > >
 > >
 > >Well the virtual cursor issues has still not been fixed! We obviously
 > >need to complain more, or perhaps maybe wait and see what JAWS 9 has for
 > >us in store. Thanks for letting us know about this.
 > >On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:57:20 -0500, "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx>
 > >said:
 > > > FS has just updated JAWS 8.0. Go to www.freedomscientific.com, JAWS
 > > > Headquarters, and the features and downloads link. This version takes
 > > > JAWS 8.0 out of public beta for Windows Vista users, and is an update
 > > > for all other supported versions of JAWS. You should be able to use
 > > > the
 > > > auto-update feature if your JAWS is current, but if you are not, just
 > > > install this new version overtop of your current installation.
 > > > Bruce
 > > >
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