I've had this problem for some time and was hoping that the JAWS 9 update would correct it; but it hasn't. So, now I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced it. When in Outlook Express, I hear "Expanded", but I may actually be one message ahead of the thread which is actually expanded. Also, I am sometimes on the first message in the list and it tells me I'm on 2 of... I really thought it was a JAWS issue, but have written to FS about it two or three times and haven't received a satisfactory response. I have wondered if it's something with my computer, but it happens on the desktop as well as the laptop. So, if it's a messed up setting in OE, then I must have done it on both computers and have no idea what might be causing it. If anyone else has had this, or a similar problem, and has figured out what to do about it, I'll try anything! Cindy "Determine that the thing can and shall be done, and then...find the way." Abraham Lincoln -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx