Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:23:10 -0700
Well, that's great. I don't happen to find it such an advantage, just no big
deal one way or the other. So I have no argument. Just wondered what the
reason was.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
Just something I learned early on with Jaws back in 2005. It's easy to get
to and I just got used to using it. When I train others I instruct them to
use the Enter key like the documentation says to use.
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
Hi Rick,
I'm not generally afraid to experiment. I'm a longtime Jaws user. But to be
honest, although I'm curious to see what sorts of situations might benefit
from my using the space bar to enter forms mode, I've never felt I had a
problem related to using the Enter key for that in the first place, you see.
So it just didn't occur to me that there was even a problem that required a
creative solution. What was it that inspired you or Jerry to even bother
with this? And what have you determined from your experience is advantageous
about this substitution? That's a straight question. Not being sarcastic.
Not forgetting that there are a million ways to skin a cat, do something in
Jaws or Windows, or whatever, please understand. Just asking. Hope that
keeps the flamers down.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
From triaal and error sometimes. Don't be afraid to experiment a bit,This
isn't really documented. Enter is the official accepted way of entering
forms mode.
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
Okay, fine. But where did you learn that this could be done, is what I'm
asking. Implicitly. Like/as they say.
----- Original Message -----
From: "G.W. Cox" <gwcox2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
Try it. You'll like it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
> Jerry,
>
> through numerous versions of Jaws, I've never learned from the
> documentation
> or tutorials or ever heard anyone say, as you have, that you can use the
> space bar to enter Forms Mode. Seriously? That's interesting. The
> instruction has always been to press Enter, and I never inferred that to
> be
> suggesting or implying that this is like working with controls labeled
> buttons, where sometimes enter will do the job but other times it's the
> space bar. I thought Forms Mode was just an enter thing, end of story.
>
> Not so, apparently?Seriously
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "G.W. Cox" <gwcox2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:30 PM
> Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
>
>
> Just something I've noticed. I usually use the space bar to go into forms
> mode with older versions of Jaws. That cuts down on going where I don't
> want
> to.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rose Combs
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 1:42 PM
> Subject: RE: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
>
>
> If you do not like it turn it off. Personally it is something that is
> very long overdue in my opinion. I like not having to press enter to fill
> in forms, it needs a bit more work, for example if one tabs to put in a
> password after a user name it sometimes turns off and getting it back
> again
> can be a annoying but, for the most part this is a feature I like a lot--a
> feather that often in the past has made me switch to System Access when I
> know I am going to be filling in forms.
>
>
> Rose Combs
> rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of alice dampman
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:41 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
>
>
> I don't think I like the idea of auto forms mode at all. If I want to
> fill
> out something, it is so easy to hit enter to get into forms mode, there is
> no chance of typing something into an edit field unintentionally, I always
> know whether I'm in forms mode or not, and if for some reason, I'm unsure,
> all I have to do is press the key combination for the pc cursor to find
> out.
> I don't like my computer or its programs to do my thinking for me,
> and
> automatically putting me in forms mode when I may not want to be there
> falls
> into that category IMO.
> Alice
> alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Peter Holdstock
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:37 PM
> Subject: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode
>
>
>
> Hi, I love the new auto forms mode. However I find it annoying when
> sometimes it will automatically go in to auto forms mode when you first
> load
> up a site. For example EBay or other sites were there is a search box or
> username field, and the website is designed to put you straight to either
> of
> the boxes. JAWS then switches to forms mode as soon as the page has loaded
> (sometimes even whilst it's loading), and then you can't use your
> navigation
> quick keys to move around the page, without having to press down arrow
> first
> to get out of forms mode.
>
> I'd like to have it so that JAWS wont go in to auto forms mode in
> situations were the website automatically puts you in an edit field.
>
> Anybody else have any comments on this?
>
> Peter
>
>
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