Re: Information Bar notifications (was Buttons)

  • From: "Mark Driesenga" <truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:34:42 -0400

Well, it could be just how I have JAWS set, but there's nothing spoken when you press alt n. Since this is obviously different (it's not everyday one has to press alt something or other and then the space bar or something) it would have been nice if they'd incorporated something for beginners to let them know that they need to press alt n and then space. But, I'm sure you see my point--the information bar's brand new, and so the confusion isn't too surprising! Even I was confused for the longest time, until I read up on it more. :) Mark
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: Information Bar notifications (was Buttons)



Um what kind of tuter message do you want?  It is a standard button!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mark Driesenga
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:14 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Information Bar notifications (was Buttons)


The information bar only appears when something triggers it--like, for
example, a popup being blocked.  It's not necessary to "quickly press
alt
n", but merely pressing it will put focus on the information bar, at
which
point pressing the space bar will actually display the menu.  It's a bit

tricky, I'll admit--since, obviously, Freedom didn't implement any sort
of
tutor message or anything alerting users as to what to do in the event
of
the information bar being displayed, but according to the JAWS help
system,
the process I've just described is the method for accessing the
information
bar.  Mark
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Information Bar notifications (was Buttons)



Adrian,
In other words, in the absence of an event like the below, the
keystroke does nothing? Also, when I do occasionally hear that IE has
blocked a pop-up and then hear a message telling me what to do if I
wish to see it, is it then that if I very quickly press alt n, I'll
reach some sort of control to
use to say yes I want to see this pop-up? I've never responded to one

of

those notices, so I don't even know if the response remains available

for

more than a few seconds.

but mainly, if alt n will not simply take you to the Information Bar,
is
the
Information Bar a real screen element that's always there, as is the

Tool

Bar? Or is it a sort of mini command center that comes onscreen only

if

you
click something with a mouse or press alt n upon receiving some sort

of

notice?


Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <A.Spratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: Information Bar notifications (was Buttons)


From what Jeffrey says, alt-n brings up the information bar when IE
blocks something, such as a popup.  JAWS alerts us when that occurs.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi Jeffrey,

I'm relatively new to IE 7, and still in the process of finding my way



around it with Jaws. What sort of notification are you referring to
where, as I'm guessing may happen, you are presented with some kind of



dialogue with a couple of controls in it, including one for accessing
the Information Bar for some reason, which you can activate with Alt N



if you don't wish to
tab to the control and press enter? I'm just imagining something like

that

because, after reading your message below, I went to IE where I

already

have
a Web page open, and pressed Alt N, thinking that this would take me

to

something in the Information Bar. But since Alt N had no effect at

all,

I'm
guessing that what you're referring to must be some kind of special
situation to which Alt N is one available response.

Would you mind explaining what sort of notification and scenario
you're referring to?

Thanks a lot.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Shockley" <jawswizard@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: Buttons

Hi, I don't know if you can rename the buttons that you want to rename



in IE. However, when you get a notification in the Information Bar,
you can just press Alt + N to go to the information bar and get a menu



with choices that let you decide what you want to do if something is
blocked by IE. HTH,
Jeffrey Check out my blog! The URL is
http://jeffreyshockley.livejournal.com
"You learn something new every day!" "You can do anything if you put

your

mind to it!" "It is not what we see that determines who we are. It is

how

we
choose to see it."
--Doomed Dragon
----- Original Message -----
From: Jouie
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:26 AM
Subject: Buttons

Hi

Can I put a name or rename a button? When I press insert F5 in
internet explorer, I just get the 1,2,3. buttons. Are those numbers
really the label of the buttons? And, how do you deal with the
information bar? I mean, is there a keystroke for that?

Jouie

Regards,

E-mail me at:

jouiecel27@xxxxxxxxx

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