Re: Information Bar notifications (was Buttons)
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:00:41 -0700
ah. Thanks. sounds easy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Information Bar notifications (was Buttons)
The information bar will stay available all the time you are on that web
page so there is no rush to press ALT + N.
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Information Bar notifications (was Buttons)
> Mark,
>
> thanks. So first of all, it's not exactly a real "bar" in the sense of
> something that's always there, like the tool bar. And it probably doesn't
> contain very many controls, maybe just something that amounts to a
> dialogue
> with two controls for responding to the kind of thing that triggers it?
> And
> you say you don't have to jump on alt n immediately after getting a notice
> like that? Well, does that mean you can do it anytime after hearing Jaws
> say
> that you've just avoided a popup, if you get a notion to see what it was,
> a
> few minutes later? In other words, does the timing depend not on how long
> the Info Bar stays up, because it only comes into view (so to speak) if
> you
> hit alt n when receiving a notice, but how long the notice itself stays
> displayed? My pop-up notice seems to speak and then go away completely, in
> a
> couple of seconds.
>
> So I guess I'm not imagining accurately what happens. But what you and
> Adrian explained helps me to understand at least what you're supposed to
> do
> if you receive some sort of notice, whatever that might include besides
> pop-up announcements, and I'll take it from there. Maybe next time I get a
> pop-up blocker notice, I'll alt n and just see what controls or whatever I
> wind up accessing. Just don't experience many of those notices as I used
> to,
> as if advertisers have simply given up on pop-ups, for the most part.
>
> Is there any other category of "event" that triggers the notice thing?
> Besides pop-ups?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Driesenga" <truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Information Bar notifications (was Buttons)
>
>
> The information bar only appears when something triggers it--like, for
> example, a popup being blocked. It's not necessary to "quickly press alt
> n", but merely pressing it will put focus on the information bar, at which
> point pressing the space bar will actually display the menu. It's a bit
> tricky, I'll admit--since, obviously, Freedom didn't implement any sort of
> tutor message or anything alerting users as to what to do in the event of
> the information bar being displayed, but according to the JAWS help
> system,
> the process I've just described is the method for accessing the
> information
> bar. Mark
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Information Bar notifications (was Buttons)
>
>
>> Adrian,
>> In other words, in the absence of an event like the below, the keystroke
>> does nothing? Also, when I do occasionally hear that IE has blocked a
>> pop-up
>> and then hear a message telling me what to do if I wish to see it, is it
>> then that if I very quickly press alt n, I'll reach some sort of control
>> to
>> use to say yes I want to see this pop-up? I've never responded to one of
>> those notices, so I don't even know if the response remains available for
>> more than a few seconds.
>>
>> but mainly, if alt n will not simply take you to the Information Bar, is
>> the
>> Information Bar a real screen element that's always there, as is the Tool
>> Bar? Or is it a sort of mini command center that comes onscreen only if
>> you
>> click something with a mouse or press alt n upon receiving some sort of
>> notice?
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Adrian Spratt" <A.Spratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: Information Bar notifications (was Buttons)
>>
>>
>> From what Jeffrey says, alt-n brings up the information bar when IE
>> blocks
>> something, such as a popup. JAWS alerts us when that occurs.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> Hi Jeffrey,
>>
>> I'm relatively new to IE 7, and still in the process of finding my way
>> around it with Jaws. What sort of notification are you referring to
>> where,
>> as I'm guessing may happen, you are presented with some kind of dialogue
>> with a couple of controls in it, including one for accessing the
>> Information
>> Bar for some reason, which you can activate with Alt N if you don't wish
>> to
>> tab to the control and press enter? I'm just imagining something like
>> that
>> because, after reading your message below, I went to IE where I already
>> have
>> a Web page open, and pressed Alt N, thinking that this would take me to
>> something in the Information Bar. But since Alt N had no effect at all,
>> I'm
>> guessing that what you're referring to must be some kind of special
>> situation to which Alt N is one available response.
>>
>> Would you mind explaining what sort of notification and scenario you're
>> referring to?
>>
>> Thanks a lot.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeffrey Shockley" <jawswizard@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: Buttons
>>
>> Hi, I don't know if you can rename the buttons that you want to rename in
>> IE. However, when you get a notification in the Information Bar, you can
>> just press Alt + N to go to the information bar and get a menu with
>> choices
>> that let you decide what you want to do if something is blocked by IE.
>> HTH,
>> Jeffrey Check out my blog! The URL is
>> http://jeffreyshockley.livejournal.com
>> "You learn something new every day!" "You can do anything if you put your
>> mind to it!" "It is not what we see that determines who we are. It is how
>> we
>> choose to see it."
>> --Doomed Dragon
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jouie
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:26 AM
>> Subject: Buttons
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Can I put a name or rename a button? When I press insert F5 in internet
>> explorer, I just get the 1,2,3. buttons. Are those numbers really the
>> label
>> of the buttons? And, how do you deal with the information bar? I mean, is
>> there a keystroke for that?
>>
>> Jouie
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> E-mail me at:
>>
>> jouiecel27@xxxxxxxxx
>>
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