Re: In using Insert F 7, why can't we use Save Target As?

Hi, Judith;
if you wanted to send a direct download link to someone, here are the steps.
I will use, www.jfwlite.com as an example.
1, first go too: www.jfwlite.com now, bring up the links list with insert 
f7.
Press the letter P for programs, enter.
now, insert f7 again, use first letter navigation, or arrow to the link you 
would wanna send.
press alt M, then press applications key, down-arrow until you hear, copy 
shortcut, press enter.
the direct download link is pasted to the clipboard.
just open your email client, example outlook express, and paste the contents 
off the clipboard.

hth.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: In using Insert F 7, why can't we use Save Target As?


All right, the class dummy has a question.  If I wanted to send a link from
the jfwlite page or a program from the programs page is this the method I
would use to copy the link I want to send?
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 5:49 AM
Subject: RE: In using Insert F 7, why can't we use Save Target As?


>
>
>
> back ground for those confused
>
> if i go to the jfw lite site for instance
>
> tab to programs.
>
> hitting the right application key should display the information about
> the=20
> program link i am on and.
>   not the page i am on.
>
> so if i pick copy short cut it should copy www.jfwlite.com/programs and
> not www.jfwlite.com
>
> unfortunately this copy short cut will not show up.
> This is not a jaws problem this is a long standing issue with internet
> explorer.  A sighted person can achieve the same problem by tabbing to a
> link and hitting the context key.=20
>
> interesting comment bruce, tried your suggestion and found it works some
> of=20
> the time.
>
> does not work on the yahoo home page site but did work on jfw lite. so
> add another page it does not work on.
>
>
> why using right mouse click works some of the time is a mystery to me
> when=20
> the right application context menu key does not.
> Well it is based on where the mouse is in a clickable zone.  Once again
> this is an internet explorer problem because jaws does not control what
> comes up with the context menu key.=20
>
> but i was under the impression to the others that commented that this=20
> function should work the same either way for sighted folks no matter
> what=20
> they selected, right mouse click for the mouse  cursor or application=20
> context menu key for the p c cursor.
> It should. Meaning that if a object is in focus pressing the context
> menu should do the same as pressing the right mouse button when the
> mouse is over an object.  Remember there is not any such ting as a pc
> cursor this is just a means jaws created to refer to the focus insertion
> point and highlight or selected index.=20
>
> both i thought should bring up the proper menu when no screen reader is
> in use.
> There again it should remember the menu brought up has nothing to do
> with the screen reader unless of course the screen reader is not getting
> to the right click zone.  Msaa and the  object model should tell jaws
> where that click zone is but in some cases the placement is wrong.  This
> is a known ms bug and should have been fixed way back in 1997 when David
> of synthavoice reported it to them.  But to date screen readers still
> have this problem also the problem of crashing or locking up as msaa and
> the object model go in to a lup as it tries to create a buffer. =20
> because jfw used to do so i still assume this is correct.
> Jfw did not use msaa and used some rather creative ways of getting the
> same info that involved reformatting the screen and all other manor of
> things.  This old method had a lot more problem then using the object
> model and msaa. =20
> i do not think window eyes does any thing to make this work correctly,
> it=20
> works with window eyes because it works in the operating system it self.
> I believe they have implemented some rather creative work around to this
> known bug.  Gw is known for doing such things. =20
>
>
> so i am all ears if some body with a little sight can tell me
> differantly. i could be wrong.
>
>
> i think this bug is tied to some kind of focus issue in jfw
> and it started when they started tapping into active accessability if=20
> memory serves me.
> There again jaws only moves the focus to where msaa and the object model
> tell it to move it.  Jaws in this case is getting the info and then
> acting according to the info it gets.=20
> maybe it has to do with the virtual cursor.
>
> bill
>
>
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