Re: Have enough Sight to use Vista? - : I would go with XP - OS question
- From: Yardbird <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:18:55 -0800
Thanks very much. I'll keep all this in mind. I've been using personal
computers since the early 80s and of course have seen many changes, not
least of which has been the non-computer eevolution-related steady
deterioration of my vision the past 15 years or so. Which is where we're
coming from when we're talking about this. I have no central vision, in
fact, so I'm blinder than you may be in the situation your describing, if
you appreciate that loss of central cone photoreceptor cells means loss of
the visual acuity that permits one to see detail. If I were to magnify my
screen enough to see anything I could even recognize as an individual thing,
like a letter or an icon, it would have to fill the screen all by itself.
That's when I moved to Jaws ten years ago. My bit of far peripheral vision
is helpful for just getting around without bumping into things, but not for
reading print out of the corner of my eye or seeing peoples' faces. So I'm
doing well enough with Jaws and win XP for now, and I'll be curious to see
what comes next in the OS department.
Thanks again for explaining.
I do hear that Microsoft is plahning to put out an operating system to
supplant Vista in the near future, so I'm curious to so ohere wfufteeb
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: Have enough Sight to use Vista? - : I would go with XP - OS
question
For me, I'd say that Vista is better because everything is so much easier to
find. If I want music, an email, favourites etc, I just do a search on the
start menu and up it pops. It's much more intuative than XP and speeds up
over time as you use it. My machine starts up very quickly now compared to
when I had XP Media Center on it.
Also, I find most hardware installs automatically when you plug it in
without having to install the provided software. It doesn't just install the
drives, but the software that was included on the cd as well in some cases.
For example my logitech quick cam. On XP I don't think it installed at all
wihtout the CD, but with Vista not only does it install the driver, but it
downloads all the logitech software as well to get full functionality out of
it.
Vista is also much easier to sort out when things go wrong which has been
very rare, and usually down to my own doing.
Peter
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From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:27 PM
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Have enough Sight to use Vista? - : I would go with XP - OS
question
> You say that you find it more stable, and this I understand. But you also
> say that you find it "better." In light of the subject of this thread,
> which
> has to do with whether or not having some vision might make it easier to
> use
> Vista than to use XP, or vice-versa, what do you mean? In what specific
> way
> or ways do you find Vista better?
>
> thanks very much.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Vandecar" <cougars-den@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Have enough Sight to use Vista? - : I would go with XP - OS
> question
>
>
> I am totally blind and just find for my use that Vista is better and much
> more stable then XP.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 2:33 PM
> Subject: Have enough Sight to use Vista? - : I would go with XP - OS
> question
>
>
>> Hello,
>> I wonder if those who use Vista have enough sight to see the program's
>> additional Graphic's and Icons and such.
>>
>> It makes a lot of difference if some one is using a large screen, or
>> Large Screen magnification software, or needs to use exclusively speech
>> to
>> run their computers.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Alan
>> Miami, Florida
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: I would go with XP - OS question
>>
>>
>>> Personally I love Vista and woudln't be without it. As for stability, I
>>> can't remember the last time my Vista system crashed and I'm always
>>> playing around with it doing things I probably shouldn't.
>>>
>>> I haven't seen the entire thread of this, but it seems to me that those
>>> not liking Vista are those who haven't given a it a chance or want to
>>> stick to what they know.
>>>
>>> For someone who hasn't even got lots of experience with XP or less, the
>>> move to Vista would be an easier one. Vista in many ways is easier to
>>> use
>>> than XP, and much quicker at allowing you to find what you need etc.
>>>
>>> Just my opinion but I wouldn't give up on it so soon.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Steve Vandecar" <cougars-den@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:45 PM
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: Re: I would go with XP - OS question
>>>
>>>> I can't believe that people who have never tried Vista say that it
>>>> isn't
>>>> a good operating system. I remember when XP first came out and people
>>>> saying it's terrible compared to 98. Sure is a funny world and nothing
>>>> changes very much. lol
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:58 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: I would go with XP - OS question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Alan, Caroline, Chris, Jennifer, & Jim;
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you all for your replies. My sister has been working with
>>>>> computers
>>>>> for about 30 years and can't stand Vista. Having only been working
>>>>> with
>>>>> computers about 4 or 5 years myself I am not familiar with all the
>>>>> different
>>>>> operating systems. I am only not very familiar with XP Home. Well, I
>>>>> guess
>>>>> I'll start looking for the full version of XP Pro. Thank you all
>>>>> again
>>>>> for
>>>>> the advice and have a very Merry Christmas. take care.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:35 PM
>>>>> Subject: I would go with XP - OS question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Mike,
>>>>> I concur with Jim 100 percent.
>>>>> In fact, like him, I have only had two (2) different Windows systems.
>>>>> Windows 98 First Edition and Windows XP.
>>>>> I did use DOS in the Computer Dark Ages and that was strange
>>>>> compared to
>>>>> today's computing!
>>>>>
>>>>> But I have heard muttered complaints about the stability of Vista from
>>>>> "Sighted People", and it seems Microsoft is not even pushing the
>>>>> product
>>>>> like they would if it was a good system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember Microsoft did put out a very bad product once, Windows
>>>>> Millennium,
>>>>> terrible stuff, so they do make mistakes!
>>>>>
>>>>> I would go with XP.
>>>>> I Never, Never heard a word of complaint about XP from either Sighted
>>>>> or
>>>>> Blind folks!
>>>>>
>>>>> With Best Regards,
>>>>> Alan
>>>>> Miami, Florida
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jim Talley" <nrg.jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 1:39 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: OS question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mike, I have only had 2 different operating systems, Windows 98
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> WindowsXP. There is no comparison, XP is terific it is so much more
>>>>>> stable
>>>>>> I love it. About Vista it is called a"media" OS lots of graphics and
>>>>>> eye
>>>>>> candy your sighted sister would likely find Vista more amusing. But
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> all a round performance and reliability Windows XP is the best! I
>>>>>> hope
>>>>>> this helps you. Hears wishing you some great Holidays and great
>>>>>> computing
>>>>>> year-round.
>>>>>> -- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: "jfw list" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 5:42 PM
>>>>>> Subject: OS question
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Everybody;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My sister is currently running Windows 2000 Professional for her
>>>>>>> operating
>>>>>>> system. Would she be better off switching to XP Pro? If she would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> better off switching to Xp Pro, should she try to get SP2 or SP3?
>>>>>>> She
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>> not use any screen reading programs or magnification programs, she
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> those so called "normal " people. If Xp would be better for her I
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> like to find it for her for Christmas. She is an extremely avid
>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>> user. All information and advice will be
>>>>>>> greatly appreciated. Thank you all very much. Have a great weekend
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> take care.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>
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