Hi, Well, I have turned off the little switch on the front of my computer that turns off all the radios. I don't know if this is the same thing or not. Karl ____________________ Karl Smith Access Technology Specialist Axis 4304 South El Camino St. Taylorsville, Utah 84119 Phone: 866-824-7885 Fax: 866-824-7885 E-mail: karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx Life is one dumb thing after another....Love is two dumb things after each other. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:01 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: General Jaws Question How are you disabling them? Could it be you're not turning them off, but simply stopping them from making connections? On my dell I actually turn the power to the radios off, but your device has to have power management enabled for it in order to do this. turning off the power unloads the driver, and you can see the device disappear from the devices list of the device manager when you do this. the support tech at jaws said I certainly wasn't the first to have this problem. here's an fyi which made my problem much worse: every time I reactivated, it went through the process ok, and said it worked, and reduced my activation count on the server, but jaws didn't save the activation information on the laptop!!! this definitely was a vista problem, and it may be fixed in jaws 10. fs was violating a tenant of vista design, and trying to write the activation information in the program directories of jaws. this works during setup because the setup program is specially priviledged at the time it runs, but when doing it afterwards, vista prevents you or jaws from making changes in the program files directory, and jaws wasn't reporting an error when it could not save the activation info. The only solution is to take ownership of the program files\freedom scientific directory away from the system and give it to your account before attempting activation. Yes, I was using an administrator account. that coupled with the 8 activations I needed really caused me headaches for a long time. Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) ________________________________ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Karl Smith Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:22 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: General Jaws Question Yes this is a Vista Ultimate machine. Karl ____________________ Karl Smith Access Technology Specialist Axis 4304 South El Camino St. Taylorsville, Utah 84119 Phone: 866-824-7885 Fax: 866-824-7885 E-mail: karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Life is one dumb thing after another....Love is two dumb things after each other. From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:30 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: General Jaws Question Is it running vista though? as I said, the tech seemed to indicate this was a vista only problem, but didn't realize until I explained it to him, that with vista the devices actualy disappear from your device list when made inactive. Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) ________________________________ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Karl Smith Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:14 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: General Jaws Question I am surprised to hear this as I have a Lenovo X61 laptop and I turn the blue tooth and other radios on and off all the time and have never been asked to reactivate my JAWS. Karl ____________________ Karl Smith Access Technology Specialist Axis 4304 South El Camino St. Taylorsville, Utah 84119 Phone: 866-824-7885 Fax: 866-824-7885 E-mail: karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx Life is one dumb thing after another....Love is two dumb things after each other. From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 3:42 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: General Jaws Question just an fyi that I found the hard way, if it's possible for you to deactivate hardware temporarily, say turning off a wifi card, this will also trigger jaws to think you've got a different pc. this seems to be a problem mostly for laptop users with vista, as it appears hardware which is turned off under vista actually disappears from the device list because it's driver is unloaded. since I have a wifi card, a bluetooth card, and a hard wired ethernet option, jaws required me to activate *eight* different times to cover all the possibilities of hardware configurations!!! :( since fs will only give you 3 activations at a time, this took weeks to resolve. this is unacceptible to me as who knows where you might be when some hardware change happens to your pc; you may be away from the internet, or out of activations at the fs web site. ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) ________________________________ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sharon Hooley Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:49 AM To: Jaws Users Group Subject: General Jaws Question Hi! A computer guy came to my house yesterday and put in a DVD drive in for me, and may have reactivated my printer. Now, when I boot up, Jaws prompts me with "activation". How do I get that to stop? Thanks! Come inside where...Is it hot or cool? http://www.MyPowerMall.com/biz/home/52721 Sharon -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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