Re: Freedom Suing GW Micro

Hi

Totally agree here. It's really sad. Instead of working to develop JAWS, they have their lawyers out there trying to stomp the competition in court. I can understand patents and that they have to be respected but come on! GW is using a totally different type of code base, and a whole other way of doing what JAWS does in this regard. If someone had *directly* stolen code then yes that's understandable, but this was done in a totally different way, but does the same thing.

i've personally never used the placemarker feature, but even so, I believe we're all in the same game here. We need to work together rather than going about it in this way. Friendly competition is great, but not like this.


At 06:14 PM 7/24/2008, you wrote:
Karl,

If you read the blog entry linked to in the messages posted to this list, you will see that the lawsuit is over a patent issue. FS is saying that GW Micro infringed on their PlaceMarker patent. According to the patent, when you use the JAWS PlaceMarker feature, the JAWS program counts the number of HTML tags on a web page down to the string of text that you marked. Then when you call up this PlaceMarker again, the program retrieves this information to find your PlaceMarker. If you've ever used this feature on a page that changed after you set a PlaceMarker, you know that their technique fails in this case. GW Micro's technique for locating a PlaceMarker is different since it doesn't fail when the page changes. Since they use a different method, it's hard to see how GW Micro is infringing on the FS patent.

I think that FS would like to slow down the development of Window-Eyes. They hear footsteps behind them, and instead of running faster to keep ahead, they want to beat their competition over the head with a club. I had hoped that the increased competition of GW Micro would encourage FS to make a better product, but again they would rather spend their resources trying to crush their competitors in court.

Gary King
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I surely don't know the entire story behind this news but I do know that FS
and others certainly have to pay licensing fees for the products they use
from Microsoft and even the Braille translator in JAWS.  This may be
something like that or it may not.  Remember that the only news we have
heard is from GW Micro who, like it or not, is far behind in the screen
reading market.  I don't say this to trash the product as I think it is a
good product written by smart and caring people but the facts are the facts.

Karl

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In software and manufacturing, many techniques are patented.
GW micro may have to pay for some license.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I thought the JAWS users would be as interested in this development as
anyone.

It looks to me like blind users are the obvious losers here, if as is
claimed, capabilities of a screen reader can be patented so that no
other products to aid blind users can make use of them.

Absolutely, unbelievable, and what a loss for us all.




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Doug recently posted a very interesting blog entry that you
should read:

http://www.gwmicro.com/blog/index.php/all/2008/07/24/do_compan
ies_really_compete_on_who_has_t

Aaron
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