Re: [Follow] Freedom Scientific introduces bugs intentionally!

  • From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 12:49:20 -0500

While lawsuits may be routine for the business world these days, this was not so for the access technology industry until Freedom Scientific came along. Manufacturers of access technology were a lot more civil in the days of Henter-Joyce, Blazie Engineering and Arkenstone, the companies that merged to form Freedom Scientific. While I'm sure the owners profited handsomely from the sale of their companies, I know of at least one that said he made a mistake. I will say that I agree with Dean Blazie.


Gary King
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 11:26 AM
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I think Dorothy first brought it up. Perhaps she has some details.

Personally I don't really care, since lawsuits are becoming de regeur for
any business concern.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Yadiel" <yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 09:16
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Hello everybody:


I have heard a lot of mention about the FS law suits... Would anyone care to
explain what they are and what are the reasons for them?


Yadiel

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From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 9:24 AM
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [Follow] Freedom Scientific introduces bugs intentionally!

Farfar, wash out your mouth. (LOLLOLLOL)
Stuck with ME, God forbid. (LOL)
Cy, The Anasazi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:56 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Follow] Freedom Scientific introduces bugs intentionally!

Well, not to digress even more off topic, but I have to suggest that
Microsoft's launch of Windows 7 was driven less by user complaints of
Vista
than by the competition being offered by Apple. If Microsoft had a
non-competitive market, we'd still be stuck with Windows ME.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Armond" <armond1980@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 21:26
Subject: [Follow] Freedom Scientific introduces bugs intentionally!


Well, guys, whether or not JAWS has been or is tremendously helpful to the
visually impaired is simply beyond the point. No one can or should deny
the
fact that JAWS has been helping thousands of users in a variety of
context.
However, that doesn't mean the follies of its developers should be
ignored.
That would be like, say, having ignored Windows Vista's multitudinous
problems and headaches simply because Microsoft has been developing
different permutations of Windows for so long. On the other hand, what we
now call a positive experience, or simply a better experience, with
Windows
7 is the direct consequence of user complaints and taking into account
those
glitches. Now who can deny the usefulness of Windows? On a similar topic,
isn't iPhone a revolutionary product with its full-fledged screen reader,
helping many visually impaired people all over the world with its
cornucopia
of apps and functions? But this doesn't prevent users from complaining
about
rather serious antenna issues with the 4th generation of iPhones.
Likewise, when we simply state that Freedom Scientific is moving in the
wrong direction with its approach toward beta testing and bug
handling--and
I don't want to mention the issue of the frequency of major upgrades which
unnecessarily kill SMA licenses, it doesn't mean that we excoriate the
whole
history of JAWS from the HJ days forward. Rather, it's just meant to keep
both the user community and, hopefully, the developers aware of the issues
which have beleagured JAWS. As for this particular bug, why should people
buy extra language packs when Unicode support in combination with a TTS
engine can do the job? And this has been the case for some years and is
still the case with other screen readers which support Unicode. And, last
but not least, this has nothing to do with international sanctions against
a
particular country; rather, it's a totally technical issue as, say, Arab
countries aren't under any particular sanctions whatsoever. Imagine having
to purchase JAWS language packs from certain dealers in order to be able
to
read and write in Russian, Greek, and Polish.

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