Dave, That was garbage left over from typographical errors that I forgot to clean up. Sorry about that. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Carlson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:42 PM Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know Joel, I'm not sure I understand what this was from your message below: whaziolli9on I kn2 p Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Yardbird To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 15:27 Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know Dave, I know you're expressing generosity. That said, may I please explain that I've used jaws since Version 3 point something, over many years, and my head is crammed with a zillion Jaws commands to send to my fingers for use on many, many occasions. Please do not think I have never trained on Jaws nor consulted its help documentation. Thank you very much. I just happen never to have heard of this particular trick. I have other ways to skip over things when I have the presence of mind and know the environment. Otherwise, I could never help support Jeff Bezos's quart early bottom line for Amazon, or find my way around one of the more complicated New York Times pages, or a lot of other things. I just never happen to have had a reason to want to skip a few lines while using Say All. In fact, and May I emphasize this politely, please. I generally don't read a short mailing list post in Say All mode, but tend rather to down arrow through it. So I was completely at a loss to be told to stop complaining and use the shift key. If you see what I mean. If you don't, please alert me and I'll try to rephrase that in yet a more comprehensible way. thanks very much. whaziolli9on I kn2 p ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Carlson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:04 PM Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know Joel, I'm glad you were able to use this feature of JAWS. There are many more features that you might find useful, but I won't try to list them all here. Just browse through the JAWS documentation and help files. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Yardbird To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:59 Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know Why should I have to go study the Jaws docuemtnation? Why don't you just write a full English sentence! Thank you! Thank you! hou!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Carlson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:51 AM Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know Joel, It's all in the JAWS documentation. If you use Say all mode, as Adrian attests, the Right Shift key will skip lines as it reads. Just give it a try. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Yardbird To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:48 Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know HOW HOW HOW DO YOU "SKIP OVER" A SEQUENCE OF LINES YOU DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO?BY PRESSING THE SHIFT KEY? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? PLEASE THANK YOU h ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Carlson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know Laura, That's perfectly fine and in keeping with standard E-Mail practices. I can easily skip over this information if I need to. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Shumate To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:18 Subject: RE: Facebook accessibility - Did you know I have to put my signature at the bottom of messages for my job, Laura Shumate The Arc of Dauphin and Lebanon Counties Harsco Center 2569 Walnut St Harrisburg, PA 17103 Phone: (717) 920-2727 Fax: (717) 920-2730 www.arcofdc.org Affiliate of The Arc of PA Advocacy & resources for citizens with intellectual and developmental disabilities &their families ------------Confidentiality Notice ------------- This e-mail message, together with any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and or privileged information. The information may be protected by state and federal laws, including, without limitation, the provisions of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), which prohibit unauthorized disclosure. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, forwarding, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail immediately and destroy all copies of the original message. From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:39 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know Laura, No offense intended, but your email sig, below your message is a *lot* of lines to have to listen through with Jaws while waiting to hear just the headers of the message to which you're responding. Please, nobody tell me to hit escape or delete when I see Laura's name in my Inbox. What if I don't hate her? Okay? So let's forget that old saw. Thank you, beloved but sometimes short-fused folks. ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Shumate To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:24 AM Subject: RE: Facebook accessibility - Did you know What kind of applications are you talking about? Laura Shumate The Arc of Dauphin and Lebanon Counties Harsco Center 2569 Walnut St Harrisburg, PA 17103 Phone: (717) 920-2727 Fax: (717) 920-2730 www.arcofdc.org Affiliate of The Arc of PA Advocacy & resources for citizens with intellectual and developmental disabilities &their families ------------Confidentiality Notice ------------- This e-mail message, together with any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and or privileged information. The information may be protected by state and federal laws, including, without limitation, the provisions of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), which prohibit unauthorized disclosure. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, forwarding, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail immediately and destroy all copies of the original message. From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Parham Doustdar Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:22 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know The problem with that version, however, is since it's the mobile version, most of the applications are not available in it. I'd rather use Twitter. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Levy To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 5:44 PM Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know I prefer the accessible Facebook site, which seems to work pretty well with JAWS. It is much easier to navigate than the regular Facebook site. Gerald ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue B To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know Do you use it Laura? Does it work better for you than the regular, more graphical, site? I might have heard about it on this or another list, but at the time it filtered through that part of my brain that isn't being used unless it is really needed. <grin> Sue B. Laura Shumate wrote: I heard about this through the Jaws List Laura Shumate The Arc of Dauphin and Lebanon Counties Harsco Center 2569 Walnut St Harrisburg, PA 17103 Phone: (717) 920-2727 Fax: (717) 920-2730 www.arcofdc.org Affiliate of The Arc of PA Advocacy & resources for citizens with intellectual and developmental disabilities &their families ------------Confidentiality Notice ------------- This e-mail message, together with any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and or privileged information. The information may be protected by state and federal laws, including, without limitation, the provisions of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), which prohibit unauthorized disclosure. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, forwarding, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail immediately and destroy all copies of the original message. From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue B Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:15 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Facebook accessibility - Did you know Hi all, Has anyone else tried the accessible version of Facebook's site. You can find it at: http://m.facebook.com As more people have asked in training about Facebook I've been trying to come up with instructions and quick ways to get places and such. I decided to read their help center to see if they mentioned anything about screen readers and sure enough they did! I sent this link on to a former client yesterday who said she'd been struggling with Facebook for weeks. I had a note back from her already this morning saying that she was able to find everything she'd been looking for on the regular site using this accessible version. It would be interesting to hear other feedback on this. Sue B. -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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