Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know

Dave,
That was garbage left over from typographical errors that I forgot to clean up. 
Sorry about that.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Dave Carlson 
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know


Joel,

I'm not sure I understand what this was from your message below:

whaziolli9on I kn2 p

Dave

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Yardbird 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 15:27
  Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know


  Dave,

  I know you're expressing generosity. That said, may I please explain that 
I've used jaws since Version 3 point something, over many years, and my head is 
crammed with a zillion Jaws commands to send to my fingers for use on many, 
many occasions. Please do not think I have never trained on Jaws nor consulted 
its help documentation. Thank you very much. I just happen never to have heard 
of this particular trick. I have other ways to skip over things when I have the 
presence of mind and know the environment. Otherwise, I could never help 
support Jeff Bezos's quart early bottom line for Amazon, or find my way around 
one of the more complicated New York Times pages, or a lot of other things. I 
just never happen to have had a reason to want to skip a few lines while using 
Say All. In fact, and May I emphasize this politely, please. I generally don't 
read a short mailing list post in Say All mode, but tend rather to down arrow 
through it. So I was completely at a loss to be told to stop complaining and 
use the shift key. If you see what I mean. If you don't, please alert me and 
I'll try to rephrase that in yet a more comprehensible way.

  thanks very much.
  whaziolli9on I kn2 p
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dave Carlson 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:04 PM
  Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know


  Joel,

  I'm glad you were able to use this feature of JAWS. There are many more 
features that you might find useful, but I won't try to list them all here. 
Just browse through the JAWS documentation and help files.

  Dave

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Yardbird 
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:59
    Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know


    Why should I have to go study the Jaws docuemtnation? Why don't you just 
write a full English sentence! Thank you! Thank you!
    hou!!
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dave Carlson 
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:51 AM
    Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know


    Joel,

    It's all in the JAWS documentation. If you use Say all mode, as Adrian 
attests, the Right Shift key will skip lines as it reads.

    Just give it a try.

    Dave

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Yardbird 
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:48
      Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know


      HOW HOW HOW DO YOU "SKIP OVER" A SEQUENCE OF LINES YOU DON'T WANT TO 
LISTEN TO?BY PRESSING THE SHIFT KEY? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? PLEASE THANK YOU h    
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Dave Carlson 
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:26 AM
      Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know


      Laura,

      That's perfectly fine and in keeping with standard E-Mail  practices. I 
can easily skip over this information if I need to. 

      Dave

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Laura Shumate 
        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:18
        Subject: RE: Facebook accessibility - Did you know


        I have to put my signature at the bottom of messages for my job,

        Laura Shumate

        The Arc of Dauphin and Lebanon Counties

        Harsco Center

        2569 Walnut St

        Harrisburg, PA 17103

         

        Phone: (717) 920-2727

        Fax:     (717) 920-2730

         

        www.arcofdc.org

         

        Affiliate of The Arc of PA

        Advocacy & resources for citizens with intellectual and developmental 
disabilities &their families

         

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        From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Yardbird
        Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:39 PM
        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know

         

        Laura,

         

        No offense intended, but your email sig, below your message is a *lot* 
of lines to have to listen through with Jaws while waiting to hear just the 
headers of the message to which you're responding. Please, nobody tell me to 
hit escape or delete when I see Laura's name in my Inbox. What if I don't hate 
her? Okay? So let's forget that old saw. Thank you, beloved but sometimes 
short-fused folks.

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Laura Shumate 

        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

        Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:24 AM

        Subject: RE: Facebook accessibility - Did you know

         

        What kind of applications are you talking about?

        Laura Shumate

        The Arc of Dauphin and Lebanon Counties

        Harsco Center

        2569 Walnut St

        Harrisburg, PA 17103

         

        Phone: (717) 920-2727

        Fax:     (717) 920-2730

         

        www.arcofdc.org

         

        Affiliate of The Arc of PA

        Advocacy & resources for citizens with intellectual and developmental 
disabilities &their families

         

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        From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Parham Doustdar
        Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:22 AM
        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know

         

        The problem with that version, however, is since it's the mobile 
version, most of the applications are not available in it. I'd rather use 
Twitter.

        ---
        Contact info:
        Skype: parham-d
        MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com
        email: parham90 at GMail dot com

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Gerald Levy 

          To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

          Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 5:44 PM

          Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know

           

           

          I prefer the accessible Facebook site, which seems to work pretty 
well with JAWS. It is much easier to navigate than the regular Facebook site.  

           

          Gerald 

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            From: Sue B 

            To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

            Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:44 AM

            Subject: Re: Facebook accessibility - Did you know

             

            Do you use it Laura? Does it work better for you than the regular, 
more graphical, site? I might have heard about it on this or another list, but 
at the time it filtered through that part of my brain that isn't being used 
unless it is really needed. <grin>

            Sue B.

            Laura Shumate wrote: 

            I heard about this through the Jaws List

            Laura Shumate

            The Arc of Dauphin and Lebanon Counties

            Harsco Center

            2569 Walnut St

            Harrisburg, PA 17103

            Phone: (717) 920-2727

            Fax:     (717) 920-2730

            www.arcofdc.org

            Affiliate of The Arc of PA

            Advocacy & resources for citizens with intellectual and 
developmental disabilities &their families

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            From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Sue B
            Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:15 AM
            To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Subject: Facebook accessibility - Did you know

            Hi all,

            Has anyone else tried the accessible version of Facebook's site. 
You can find it at: http://m.facebook.com 
            As more people have asked in training about Facebook I've been 
trying to come up with instructions and quick ways to get places and such. I 
decided to read their help center to see if they mentioned anything about 
screen readers and sure enough they did! I sent this link on to a former client 
yesterday who said she'd been struggling with Facebook for weeks. I had a note 
back from her already this morning saying that she was able to find everything 
she'd been looking for on the regular site using this accessible version. It 
would be interesting to hear other feedback on this.



            Sue B.

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