Re: Easiest Way of Proof Reading in Word

That will work too!  Go for it!
Danny 

At 12:08 PM 7/26/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>Okay, I guess that works for me, though it's still not a very natural thing 
>for my left hand.  As for the Insert key, in all good humor, I gotta ask why 
>everyone feels the need to specify which finger or thumb to use to press 
>this, any more than something like the enter key?  I'm smiling, not being 
>sarcastic.  I mean, all day long, I press the Insert key as a Jaws key with 
>this finger, or that finger, or whatever, just depending what else I have to 
>press with that hand at the moment.
>
>Like, say, the say word or say line or say all commands find me pressing 
>Insert with my thumb, which sort of anchors my hand so I can accurately and 
>easily press the 8, 5, or 3 keys on the num pad with my right middle finger. 
>That's just a naturally stable arrangement, that happens without my even 
>thinking about it.
>
>But if a command involves the insert key plus some key under my left hand, 
>then I press Insert with anything that happens to reach for it, whether it's 
>my thumb, index or middle finger.  This scenario under discussion being an 
>instance of the latter case.
>
>Anyway, I'll try to bring up this proofreading function again.  I' still 
>like to know where it is discussed in Jaws help, where it can be found  on 
>some menu, and so forth.  thanks.
>Daniel
>
>wells@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:46 AM
>Subject: Re: Easiest Way of Proof Reading in Word
>
>
>
>Use the ring finger on the left hand for the S key and the thumb on the
>left hand for the alt key and the thumb on the right hand for the insert
>key.  Of course press the alt and insert key before the S key.  No problem!
>
>Danny
>
>At 11:28 AM 7/26/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>>Humm.  Except for the Insert/Jaws key, which I can press with any finger or
>>thumb just so I feel for it and find it, I find this physically impossible.
>>First of all, the left ring finger is already the normal finger that 
>>presses
>>the "s" key in home position on a qwerty keyboard, so that's no problem,
>>ever.  But twisting the hand around to get the baby finger to the left of
>>that finger down and rightward to the alt key, almost to the left edge of
>>the space bar?  You actually do this?
>>
>>Isn't there any other way to invoke this interesting-sounding function
>>without using this hotkey command?  Isn't there simply a menu item in the
>>Jaws interface, for instance, or something like that?  For nearly every
>>function blind keyboard users love to have a hotkey for, there's a menu 
>>item
>>somewhere, and the hotkey is just a shortcut for that command.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>hteky aomrl xpect
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:53 AM
>>Subject: Re: Easiest Way of Proof Reading in Word
>>
>>
>>To press insert/alt/s all at once this worked for me.
>>on the left hand put the baby finger on left alt, the ring finger on s and
>>the baby finger on the right hand on the jaws key.  Judith
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:27 PM
>>Subject: Re: Easiest Way of Proof Reading in Word
>>
>>
>>> I have a couple of comments about Edward's instructions.
>>>
>>> First, I went into Configuration Manager, Text Processing to see the
>>options
>>> Edward describes below for setting the mode of capitalization
>>announcement.
>>> Whereas his instructions say to set caps to be announced in all three
>>> ways--by character, by word, and by line-- in actuality, this item is a
>>> combo box from which you can choose only one option at a time.  I'll 
>>> paste
>>> in the Word Help section below.  And don't forget to save the Word.jcf
>>file
>>> where you're making this change before exiting Configuration manager, or
>>it
>>> won't take.
>>>
>>> All that said, I really appreciate Edward pointing out this possibility
>>> because, even if I have to go through all that to turn it on and off for 
>>> a
>>> period of copy editing a Word document, it provides the caps announcement
>>> handily in line-by-line close editorial reading, still letting things 
>>> read
>>> normally in Say All.  That's my preference, of course; others may prefer
>>to
>>> also use the option of having caps announced in Say All, as Edward points
>>> out on the Insert V temporary verbosity settings menu.  Just a matter of
>>> what's helpful enough without driving me crazy to listen to.
>>>
>>> My second comment is that I was curious to see what those proofreading
>>> capabilities were about, because, if an Insert key is involved, I guess
>>it's
>>> a Jaws function rather than part of the Word spelling and grammar 
>>> program,
>>> and I never heard about it.  I can't figure out which topic it might be
>>> treated in within jaws help, though I did look.  ord But when I tried to
>>> invoke it as instructed, I couldn't figure out how to press Insert, Alt
>>and
>>> S together, no matter how hard I tried.  Which fingers are used for this
>>by
>>> most people?
>>>
>>> Okay, here's the bit from Jaws help about that text processing option. 
>>> If
>>> you look at it, you'll see you have to sselect one, and only one item.
>>> There isn't a set of check boxes or on and off toggles that enable you to
>>> employ all three methods at once.
>>> (this is Jaws 6.0 I'm using)
>>>
>>> Indicate Capitalization
>>>
>>> Use this list to tell JAWS when to indicate capitalization. By default,
>>JAWS
>>> only announces capitalization when reading by character or spelling words
>>or
>>> lines.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 6:22 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Easiest Way of Proof Reading in Word
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Edward, you just gave the technical options that most of us never
>>> thought of.  Judith
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Edward Marquette" <emarquette@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:11 AM
>>> Subject: Easiest Way of Proof Reading in Word
>>>
>>>
>>> > Here are some tips that actually work.
>>> > 1.  If you turn on spell-check as you type, Word, even with tons of
>>> memory, will sometimes give you an out of memory error.  Plus, on all but
>>> rocket fast machines, it slows down Word with JAWS running.
>>> > 2.  Control Plus Shift plus E does not bring up a dialog box with a 
>>> > list
>>> of errors, but then I don't have spell-check as you type turned on.  On 
>>> my
>>> system, control plus shift plus E turns track changes on and off in Word,
>>a
>>> function I'm required to use often.  So, that hot key choice was
>>> unfortunate -- if the post was correct on that point.
>>> > 3.  Always, always put two spaces between a period (and the like) and
>>the
>>> next sentence.  Word generally will capitalize the first letter of the
>>> sentence.  I've never had a problem.
>>> > 4.  In Configuration Manager for JAWS, while inside Word, go to text
>>> processing, check "read with character, word, and line."  That way, as 
>>> you
>>> read line-by-line through a document, you will hear capitalization.
>>> > 5. When in Word, press JAWS key plus the letter V.  Near the bottom of
>>the
>>> list, there are a couple of capitalization options.  Turn them on.  One 
>>> is
>>> "say caps during say all."  I canot remember the other.
>>> > 6.  If you don't hear the pitch different for capital letters, either 
>>> > go
>>> back to "voices" in the JAWS menu (JAWS key plus J) and increase the 
>>> pitch
>>> differential for upper case.  In the alternative, have JAWS say "cap" for
>>> capital letters.
>>> > 7.  Press alt plus insert plus S.  Pick one of the proof reading 
>>> > schemes
>>> and, at least initially, turn on training mode.
>>> > 8.  For words you know you frequently screw up, you can go to autotext
>>(in
>>> the Word tools menu).  There, you can enter NO in solid caps, putting the
>>> replacement word in lower case and upper case combined.
>>> > 9.  You could also use the JAWS dictionary.  When on NO (solid caps),
>>> press JAWS key plus D.  Add this word to the dictionary.  To alert you,
>>type
>>> in something like "no in solid caps."   That's what JAWS will say 
>>> whenever
>>> you type "NO" in solid caps.
>>> > You don't have to do all of the above.  Some will be more to your 
>>> > liking
>>> than others.
>>> > I wouldn't turn on the Word grammar checker if my life depended upon 
>>> > it.
>>> > Good luck.
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