Re: Easiest Way of Proof Reading in Word
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:44:01 -0700
Thanks, Bruce. That's "doable," as they say. Still requires a bit of
concentration, to make sure the fingers stay in home position so that the s
is right there for me, but feel around with my thumb for the alt key without
moving off home position. Gonna try it and see what that function looks
like.
istrubing
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Toews" <water_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: Easiest Way of Proof Reading in Word
Insert (JAWS) key with the righthand finger of your choice, alt key with
left thumb, s key with left ring finger. This stuff is not rocket sicence.
But if this proves too difficult, the key can be redefined in the keyboard
manager.
Bruce
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Yardbird wrote:
> Humm. Except for the Insert/Jaws key, which I can press with any finger
> or
> thumb just so I feel for it and find it, I find this physically
> impossible.
> First of all, the left ring finger is already the normal finger that
> presses
> the "s" key in home position on a qwerty keyboard, so that's no problem,
> ever. But twisting the hand around to get the baby finger to the left of
> that finger down and rightward to the alt key, almost to the left edge of
> the space bar? You actually do this?
>
> Isn't there any other way to invoke this interesting-sounding function
> without using this hotkey command? Isn't there simply a menu item in the
> Jaws interface, for instance, or something like that? For nearly every
> function blind keyboard users love to have a hotkey for, there's a menu
> item
> somewhere, and the hotkey is just a shortcut for that command.
>
> Thanks.
> hteky aomrl xpect
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: Easiest Way of Proof Reading in Word
>
>
> To press insert/alt/s all at once this worked for me.
> on the left hand put the baby finger on left alt, the ring finger on s and
> the baby finger on the right hand on the jaws key. Judith
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Easiest Way of Proof Reading in Word
>
>
>> I have a couple of comments about Edward's instructions.
>>
>> First, I went into Configuration Manager, Text Processing to see the
> options
>> Edward describes below for setting the mode of capitalization
> announcement.
>> Whereas his instructions say to set caps to be announced in all three
>> ways--by character, by word, and by line-- in actuality, this item is a
>> combo box from which you can choose only one option at a time. I'll
>> paste
>> in the Word Help section below. And don't forget to save the Word.jcf
> file
>> where you're making this change before exiting Configuration manager, or
> it
>> won't take.
>>
>> All that said, I really appreciate Edward pointing out this possibility
>> because, even if I have to go through all that to turn it on and off for
>> a
>> period of copy editing a Word document, it provides the caps announcement
>> handily in line-by-line close editorial reading, still letting things
>> read
>> normally in Say All. That's my preference, of course; others may prefer
> to
>> also use the option of having caps announced in Say All, as Edward points
>> out on the Insert V temporary verbosity settings menu. Just a matter of
>> what's helpful enough without driving me crazy to listen to.
>>
>> My second comment is that I was curious to see what those proofreading
>> capabilities were about, because, if an Insert key is involved, I guess
> it's
>> a Jaws function rather than part of the Word spelling and grammar
>> program,
>> and I never heard about it. I can't figure out which topic it might be
>> treated in within jaws help, though I did look. ord But when I tried to
>> invoke it as instructed, I couldn't figure out how to press Insert, Alt
> and
>> S together, no matter how hard I tried. Which fingers are used for this
> by
>> most people?
>>
>> Okay, here's the bit from Jaws help about that text processing option.
>> If
>> you look at it, you'll see you have to sselect one, and only one item.
>> There isn't a set of check boxes or on and off toggles that enable you to
>> employ all three methods at once.
>> (this is Jaws 6.0 I'm using)
>>
>> Indicate Capitalization
>>
>> Use this list to tell JAWS when to indicate capitalization. By default,
> JAWS
>> only announces capitalization when reading by character or spelling words
> or
>> lines.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 6:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: Easiest Way of Proof Reading in Word
>>
>>
>> Thanks Edward, you just gave the technical options that most of us never
>> thought of. Judith
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Edward Marquette" <emarquette@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:11 AM
>> Subject: Easiest Way of Proof Reading in Word
>>
>>
>>> Here are some tips that actually work.
>>> 1. If you turn on spell-check as you type, Word, even with tons of
>> memory, will sometimes give you an out of memory error. Plus, on all but
>> rocket fast machines, it slows down Word with JAWS running.
>>> 2. Control Plus Shift plus E does not bring up a dialog box with a list
>> of errors, but then I don't have spell-check as you type turned on. On
>> my
>> system, control plus shift plus E turns track changes on and off in Word,
> a
>> function I'm required to use often. So, that hot key choice was
>> unfortunate -- if the post was correct on that point.
>>> 3. Always, always put two spaces between a period (and the like) and
> the
>> next sentence. Word generally will capitalize the first letter of the
>> sentence. I've never had a problem.
>>> 4. In Configuration Manager for JAWS, while inside Word, go to text
>> processing, check "read with character, word, and line." That way, as
>> you
>> read line-by-line through a document, you will hear capitalization.
>>> 5. When in Word, press JAWS key plus the letter V. Near the bottom of
> the
>> list, there are a couple of capitalization options. Turn them on. One
>> is
>> "say caps during say all." I canot remember the other.
>>> 6. If you don't hear the pitch different for capital letters, either go
>> back to "voices" in the JAWS menu (JAWS key plus J) and increase the
>> pitch
>> differential for upper case. In the alternative, have JAWS say "cap" for
>> capital letters.
>>> 7. Press alt plus insert plus S. Pick one of the proof reading schemes
>> and, at least initially, turn on training mode.
>>> 8. For words you know you frequently screw up, you can go to autotext
> (in
>> the Word tools menu). There, you can enter NO in solid caps, putting the
>> replacement word in lower case and upper case combined.
>>> 9. You could also use the JAWS dictionary. When on NO (solid caps),
>> press JAWS key plus D. Add this word to the dictionary. To alert you,
> type
>> in something like "no in solid caps." That's what JAWS will say
>> whenever
>> you type "NO" in solid caps.
>>> You don't have to do all of the above. Some will be more to your liking
>> than others.
>>> I wouldn't turn on the Word grammar checker if my life depended upon it.
>>> Good luck.
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