Jerry, You make some very good points that should not be overlooked. GW Micro and FS both operate with different business philosophies, different people with their own bents, etc., so even if the competition is only between these two, we will at some point see a winner when a significant number of consumers have voiced their approval or disapproval with their wallets. I do believe that both companies have their good and bad points, but I also believe that as America and the world gets older and the list of visually impaired persons increases, there will be yet other young companies who may have innovative ideas, who will have to by nature be fiercely competetive, who may just throw both of these "big" companies out of the ring. I personally hope that FS gets more aggressive and competetive with mareting their products, as it will benefit them AND us. GW Micro is getting much public recognition already by udnerwriting DVS for ABC's "Blind Justice", and that alone should be a wakeup call to FS to get into the public eye and very soon. To FS's credit, they still have the market lead as far as number of users, and that can be good or bad, but right now they lead. To keep that lead, they will need to start thinking more competition. The last thing I want to see is for them to go the way of TSI! Again, I believe that we ultimately have the power to decide who survives and who doesn't, and this is true of just about any field. But we have to use that voice and demand better products and service. All too often, too many people simply accept what's handed them as if "that's the best we can do", but we must decide for ourselves what we want and support those companies that meet those needs. OK, enough of being on this soapbox. I trust I've made my point. Let's resolve to have an active voice, whichever company we decide better suits our needs. Bill Powers -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx