Re: Dell computer and JFW
- From: "John Miller" <n1umj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 15:50:49 -0500
you're better off, I never had a problem with paypal and jfw, but paypal in
general I certainly have.
----- Original Message -----
From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: Dell computer and JFW
> Hi Bruce,
> I'm not saying paypal isn't accessible. The problem I have when I am
> trying
> to setup an account, I get to all that legal stuff, and for some reason
> jaws
> won't read the info. It cuts out in the middle of a line or it just won't
> read it at all. This is using jaws 5.10
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Toews" <coke_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 10:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Dell computer and JFW
>
>
>> Interesting you should say that, as I find Paypal to be extremely easy to
>> use with JFW. Of the two user interfaces, JAWS has my vote bar none in
>> terms of a logical layout.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
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>> On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, chevelle wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> wow! you know quite aq bit. I have used Jaws with an Alva and the power
>>> braille. For my personal use I do have the Alva satellite series. You
>>> hit
>>> the point. There are times when I want to use the braille display only.
>>> With
>>> Jaws I can do this. With Window-eyes everytime I advance to the next 44
>>> letters window-eyes will talk. It drives me crazy! At least with Jaws
>>> the
>>> times I want to use the braille display to read e-mail, or entire
>>> documents,
>>> I can do this with the braille display, and Jaws will not talk at all
>>> while
>>> I use the braille display. If Window-eyes could do that I would probably
>>> switch because again Window-eyes does seem to do a much better job of
>>> working on the internet than Jaws. Lately I have noticed a trend with
>>> jaws.
>>> Here is an example. If I go to www.deankoontz.com, and I want to read an
>>> excerpt from one of his books, Jaws for some reason starts to act weird!
>>> Sometimes it will read part of a line and just stop speaking in the
>>> middle
>>> of a word. I can't even use the braille display at this point. If I
>>> press
>>> the down arrow sometimes I have to wait a long time before Jaws will
>>> speak.
>>> Sometimes Jaws won't even speak. Another website that this happens is
>>> www.paypal.com. I have to switch to Window-eyes to finish setting up an
>>> account.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bill" <bill.cam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Dell computer and JFW
>>>
>>>
>>>> trying to keep this on jfw topic.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> jfw of course is maid by freedom scientific.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> prior to the telesensory merger jfw best support occurred with alva
>>>> braille
>>>> displays, that best support now may be with the power braille or other
>>>> telesensory now freedom scientific products.
>>>>
>>>> point being jfw support for braille may vary depending on your braille
>>>> display because their more apt to implement their scripts for their own
>>>> hardware products.
>>>>
>>>> so bottom line is this do you have a freedom scientific braille
>>>> display.
>>>>
>>>> if the answer is yes then you may find jfw the better tool for braille
>>>> support.
>>>> not to mention a one stop for answers to your tech questions on how to
>>>> use it.
>>>>
>>>> comparing braille support is a tricky thing.
>>>>
>>>> main reason for this is how its implemented in the differant products.
>>>>
>>>> some products are designed more for solo braille use with no speech
>>>> while
>>>> others are designed to work in conjunction with the screen voice.
>>>>
>>>> on the flip side the individuals braille skill plays a part in what is
>>>> best
>>>> for you.
>>>>
>>>> if braille is your first choice and your able to read like a jack
>>>> rabbit
>>>> then you will want a package that caters to no speech.
>>>>
>>>> if on the flip side your braille is only so so but you have a need for
>>>> silent feedback then the combo option may be best for you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> this is not to say that the products do not have over lapping features.
>>>> a product design more to be braille only will also offer speech and
>>>> vice
>>>> a
>>>> versa.
>>>>
>>>> so the combo unit can also be used with speech only.
>>>>
>>>> still the main design determines ease of use.
>>>>
>>>> bottom line its more oranges and apples than what is best and
>>>> inferior.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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