RE: DSL question
- From: "Cy" <cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:49:53 -0500
Hi, I also use the Two Wire router through SBC and it works pretty well.
Cy, the Ancient Okie...
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Gene Stevens
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 4:32 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DSL question
I should have qualified my statement with the fact that I use a 2-Wire
home
portal from SBC and that it does have a hardware firewall included.
Gene
On MSN and Yahoo: guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 4:48 PM
Subject: RE: DSL question
>I agree with most of this; sounds fine for the most part. However,
>unless DSL modems are inherently different than cable modems, I would
>say that most of them *do not* include a hardware firewall. You can
>pay more, and buy your own which does, but the ones handed out by our
>cable companies and our local DSL companies don't have any frills like
>a hardware firewall.
>
> If there's any question about this, the original poster could just ask
> the installer.
>
>
>
> Chip Orange
> Database Administrator
> Florida Public Service Commission
>
> Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> (850) 413-6314
>
> (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
> necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Gene Stevens
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 2:08 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: DSL question
>>
>> Most of the DSL modems come with firewall software included. Now I
>> know I'll hear some flack about this one... but here goes any way.
>> Switch over to the
>> Norton Internet Security package. It has most of the software
>> protection you
>> will need. It's firewall runs well with the hardware firewall
>> used by most
>> of the modems. Then install the Microsoft Anti-Spy software.
>> It's a little
>> cumbersome to run, but it's always active function is quite
>> handy. Combine
>> this with something like Ad Aware and you have pretty much
>> covered all the
>> bases. Just remember to do your scans regularly and keep your
>> definitions up
>> to date and you should be fine.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> On MSN and Yahoo: guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 2:00 PM
>> Subject: RE: DSL question
>>
>>
>> >I think you're best thing would be to find the manuals or
>> the help files
>> > for the software you do have and read them from start to finish.
>> >
>> > Then, if you still have time, go google for a web site article that
>> > talks about security for home computers.
>> >
>> > You have perhaps 3 basic worries:
>> >
>> > 1. viruses, which you're familiar with. You can't catch a
>> virus unless
>> > you execute a program that someone gives you in some way,
>> and if you've
>> > got antivirus software with regular updates to its files of
>> viruses, it
>> > should stop it from executing.
>> >
>> > 2. spyware. This is much like a virus; you can't catch it
>> unless you
>> > execute a program someone gives you. Unlike a virus, it doesn't
>> > necessarily try to do damage to your pc; it tries to extract some
>> > information from your pc, and send it back to the creator. This is
>> > where a software firewall can help, but not a hardware firewall.
>> >
>> > What the spyware does is attempt to open a connection over
>> the internet
>> > to deliver its information. A software firewall on your pc
>> can block
>> > this, and ask you if it's ok to let program XXX connect to
>> the internet.
>> > This is where it gets complicated, because even for
>> knowledgeable folks,
>> > it's hard to know how to answer. Your best course is to
>> always answer
>> > "no", but don't check the checkbox that says "never ask me again".
>> > That's because you'll eventually learn that you sometimes
>> need to answer
>> > "yes". For instance, when the windows automatic update
>> program needs to
>> > check for updates, you need to let it do so. You'll
>> eventually learn
>> > what program it is, and when it runs, and you'll eventually
>> say "yes"
>> > and "don't ask me again".
>> >
>> > This kind of constant questioning is bothersome, and frustrating,
>> > because you often don't know how to answer. You could go out on
>> > the internet and research each program name each time it asks you.
>> >
>> > By doing this, you could possibly prevent some spyware from
>> getting your
>> > info on to the internet. I admit, it could be a lot of
>> effort, for a
>> > rather small bit of extra security, especially if you run
>> anti-spyware
>> > software checks every day.
>> >
>> > 3. You have to worry slightly about people from the outside making
>> > their way on to your pc; either to steal information, or just to do
>> > malicious harm, or to "hijack" your pc as part of some
>> larger internet
>> > hacking project. This is where either a hardware or a
>> software firewall
>> > will help prevent them from making contact with your pc.
>> Even the free
>> > XP SP2 firewall is good for this kind of protection.
>> >
>> > Go out and find some web tutorials that cover all this
>> better. At home
>> > I have both a hardware and software firewall, I have both
>> anti-virus and
>> > anti-spyware software running constantly, and I have made changes
>> > to some default xp settings to make my pc more secure.
>> >
>> > In order to do some things that I want (such as use a BitTorrent
>> > client), I've had to make security compromises; so, I make
>> backups of my
>> > system, and rotate them, so if I had to I could fall back
>> to a backup if
>> > I got hurt by something. If I had my credit card number
>> stolen by some
>> > spyware I'd be in trouble, so I'm going to start using
>> special one-use
>> > only credit card numbers offered by my credit card company.
>> >
>> > I have a wireless router, so I have to do special security
>> for that as
>> > well. It's a never-ending battle, and you can't just ask
>> someone for a
>> > quick bit of info to make it all safe; I'm afraid you have
>> to spend some
>> > time educating yourself.
>> >
>> > hth,
>> >
>> > Chip
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Chip Orange
>> > Database Administrator
>> > Florida Public Service Commission
>> >
>> > Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > (850) 413-6314
>> >
>> > (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
>> > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service
>> > Commission.)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> >
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > Behalf Of Judith Bron
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 11:44 AM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: Re: DSL question
>> >
>> >
>> > Chip, I have Norton corporate edition and software spyware. Is
>> > that enough or should I download a software firewall when I get
>> > DSL? Are there instructions that would help me operate this
>> software so that
>> > I don't disable any of the things I already have running? Thanks,
>> > Judith
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Chip Orange <mailto:Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 11:36 AM
>> > Subject: RE: DSL question
>> >
>> > It's not an either or type of decision; they do
>> > different jobs for the most part.
>> >
>> > A hardware firewall usually takes no effort to setup,
>> > but does the least to protect your pc. A software firewall
>> catches many
>> > more potential problems than a hardware firewall, but takes a lot
>> > of effort to setup and understand. It's theoretically
>> possible it could be
>> > disabled, but I've never seen a report of it actually happening to
>> > anyone.
>> >
>> > The free firewall that comes with XP SP2 is kind of strange in that
>> > it is a software firewall that acts like a hardware firewall (that
>> > is, rather poorly, but is little trouble to operate). The *real*
>> > software firewalls really can be a *lot* of trouble to operate and
>> > understand; it's very easy to set them up incorrectly so that they
>> > allow spyware to communicate, or you stop your
>> valid software
>> > from performing some automatic function such as self-updating.
>> >
>> > MS should have put more effort into solving this issue, and I guess
>> > they are with their beta version of their
>> anti-spyware tool.
>> > This will eventually catch spyware without making folks
>> deal with the
>> > complexities of a software firewall.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Chip Orange
>> > Database Administrator
>> > Florida Public Service Commission
>> >
>> > Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > (850) 413-6314
>> >
>> > (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author
>> > and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service
>> > Commission.)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> >
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > Behalf Of chevelle
>> > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:24 PM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: Re: DSL question
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi, I would say if you are going to dsl or
>> > cable, it is definitely a good idea to have a firewall. YOu
>> can still
>> > with the Norton firewall that you have or go with a
>> hardware firewall
>> > built into a router. I would suggest going with a hardware
>> firewall. For
>> > one thing today's spyware, and other bad programs are able and do
>> > disable a software firewall. They can't disable a hardware
>> > firewall. People will probably say you should have both, but it is
>> > up
>> to you. I am
>> > only using a hardware firewall. Also since I've gone to a hardware
>> > firewall I don't have as many hastles as I used to.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Judith Bron
>> > <mailto:jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:00 PM
>> > Subject: DSL question
>> >
>> > Hi Friends,
>> > We are looking into getting DSL. Here
>> > are my questions:
>> > 1. How do I notify everyone in muy
>> > address book that my email address has changed?
>> > 2. Do I need a firewall or any other
>> > software with DSL? I have Norton corporate edition,
>> windows 98 and Jaws
>> > 5.1. Thanks, Judith
>> >
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