Re: Coding iTunes

John, is it hard to script a program? I ask this because scripting is something 
that I am very interested, but I don't have the knowledge to do it. My 2 majors 
in university are translation and education but I find scripting so interesting 
that I would like to learn it to make a couple of programs that I have a bit 
more accessible. So, again, is it hard to learn. At least to script for jaws?

Thanks.


From: John Martyn 
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 8:13 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: Re: Coding iTunes


Yes, there is a focus issue with the store. I could easily fix that. Most all 
the stuff you want for iTunes is so easy now that I know what to do. I see 
development for this one particularly quick once I actually get started.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill Spiry 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 12:24 PM
  Subject: RE: Coding iTunes


  Yes, it is possible to use itunes to get the aps and transfer to the phone 
but the interface is very clunky with jaws. Biggest problem is that once you've 
gone into iStore land its darn near impossible to efficiently get back out and 
to the source list. For me it has required lots of tabbing in reverse and or 
shifting the views through the menus to get out of iStore land. Frankly I'm not 
even certain which "trick" is getting me out of jail when I do succeed. Not 
sure if this is a problem due to j-tunes or just a problem due to jaws and 
itunes playing rough together. It is indeed more efficient however to by the 
apps via itunes and sync with the phone simply because typing on a keyboard is 
faster than entering through the touch screen.

   

   

  From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
John Martyn
  Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:46 AM
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: Coding iTunes

   

  It appears that iTouch and iPhone are moving into the accessibility category 
and more will use them. I have an iTouch myself. One thing I noticed is the 
inability to uncheck songs from being synced if you want to manually manage 
your library. Does jaws allow you to uncheck songs from the list? Alsois it 
possible to transfer apps to the phone using the iStore in the application 
instead of doing it on the phone? That would be nice because it would take less 
time if Jaws allowed it.

   

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Bill Spiry 

    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 10:23 PM

    Subject: RE: Coding iTunes

     

    I agree. Itunes is essential for using the iphone, the iphone is arguably 
the most accessible smart phone out there, and for the windows and jaws user 
there needs to be a good solution. J-tunes just isn't keeping up and as noted, 
it really doesn't "bring that much to the party." 

    Tiptoeing around in itunes is frustrating at best and disruptive at worst. 
It would be nice to have stronger jaws scripting for the application. As noted, 
the iStore currently throws the limited functionality of jaws and itunes on its 
ear. 

     

     

    From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Yadiel Sotomayor
    Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 8:26 PM
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: Re: Coding iTunes

     

    Well, look at the jTunes and build from there. Just kidding. Even though 
the jTunes cost 75 dollars, they don't bring to much to the party. Well, 
suggestions on what I want on iTunes. Well, access to the help file. Second, 
since jaws 12 or iTunes 10.2.1 (don't know which one) broke the iTunes store, 
the iTunes store would be very nice. A way to imput data or create an account 
without turning the virtual cursor off. A way to get all the easily accessible 
information for sighted people (track name, time, number of tracks, etc.) in an 
easy matter. Jaws iimput when selecting tracks via the control plus spacebar 
method. Those are just of a few suggestions. I am going to left this open for 
people's imput.

     

    From: John Martyn 

    Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 8:10 PM

    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Subject: Coding iTunes

     

    ITunes is a good one. I know that some of it can't be accessed easily 
without the jaws cursor. Definately an easier app to work with since they are 
Microsoft accessibility access friendly. Plus I noticed that they leave the JSS 
file open to scripters. Just in case we wanted to add to it. Give your thoughts 
on what we want iTunes to do. I definately use iTunes myself and it is a 
popular app. As far as the need, we still have to hear more input from 
everyone. Good suggestion.

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Yadiel Sotomayor 

      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 7:25 AM

      Subject: Re: Coding for a new jaws accessible app

       

      Hmmm... I would like to see scripts (free scripts if possible) for 
iTunes. I downloaded the jTunes scripts (version 5.5) and I did not like them 
at all. They did not added much to the party and there are some parts of iTunes 
that since version 10.2.1 have become completely inaccessible. E.G. the iTunes 
store.

       

       

      Other program I would love to see a script being developed is for DVD fab 
platnum. 

       

       

      I am thinking of a couple, but I doubt there will be any interest among 
blind persons, so I won't mention them. At least for now.

       

      From: John Martyn 

      Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 4:33 AM

      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; jaws-users-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Subject: Coding for a new jaws accessible app

       

      Hi folks,

      As my 32nd birthday approaches, I think I am going to make a habit of 
picking one new application per year to make jaws accessible. Picking Rhapsody 
was not an easy task, but it taught me many things about an application that 
seems next to impossible to make behave. I am taking off this summer from 
school and will have the time to code a new application. Rhapsody Blind was a 
test to see if I could pull it off, and it worked. I selfishly chose the first 
one, now I'm looking for the popular vote on what you might want. I probably 
won't start until this semester is over at the end of May, so this gives plenty 
of time to decide. It would be a good idea to chat among each other and find 
out what is needed or just plain want for entertainment purposes. So, let's 
open up the floor and hear some suggestions.

      Thanks,

      John Martyn

      Yadiel J. Sotomayor

       

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