Re: [Bulk] RE: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
- From: Daniel McGee <mc-g@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:41:46 +0000
Hi list, Daniel hear. Just wanted to say that I use windows Live mail the 2009
version. I am giving this info because if gary wants to try out windows live
mail, 2009 is the most accessible with Jaws. the 2011 isn't at present. At
least that's is in my case.
The main thing I don't like about this email client and if anyone can confirm
this then I would be truely appreciated because I have never used any of the
other email clients is the fact that when one wants to look at a contact name
meaning tabbing to it when you have opened a message you can't arrow left and
right because when I do I just get the bong sound that windows vista makes.
And also I don't know if its me but when I get email mailing list messages the
way I start a new topic I would like to know about is that I open a message tab
or shift tab to the to field hit the apps key and there should be something
along of the word email go into that then hit enter on personal email. Well
before doing any of this on the to field when I do a say all with jaws, I
notice I get a llot of the following symboals such as greater than and less
than are the common ones Also I have notice that jaws repeats the email
address so you get somethinglike this. jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
Is this also normall?
Many thanks and Gary I hope you find your email client for your new windows 7
computer!
Daniel
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 6:04 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
Dave,
As you'll remember, I switched from OE to Outlook last spring. You gave me very
useful advice at the time. for me, adjusting from tabbing to pressing enter +
F6 soon became a matter of habit. Actually, I substitute tab for F6 in this
process, which made the transition even easier.
Again for me, the process of creating alternative folders for receipt of
certain kinds of messages is more intuitive in Outlook than in OE.
I never used the control-j command in OE because I knew which folders I'd
assigned for incoming messages, and they were few enough to check easily. What
I do miss in Outlook is the control-u command to search for unread messages.
Also, if I'm in a list of messages within a folder, insert-tab doesn't tell me
the message number where focus is placed. Neither flaw is a deal-breaker for
me, though I'd anticipated both would be.
what motivated me to abandon OE was that the number of messages I'd saved was
causing loss of some data. I haven't encountered that problem in Outlook.
There's another big advantage with Outlook. With OE, you can save only one
message at a time to a text file. with Outlook, you can save an entire folder,
or some part of it, to a single text file.
Again, I'm writing about Outlook 2003 and making the assumption that these
points apply to later versions.
A user not having a problem with OE shouldn't switch. But when the time comes
that updating is required and OE isn't readily available, Outlook has most of
OE's features, a few drawbacks and at least two major strengths--memory
capacity and the ability to copy many messages in a single operation to a text
file. Other listers would add at least one more feature: Outlook's accessible
calendar.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 12:18 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
Adrian,
I use Outlook 2007 at work for my corporate E-Mail and it is not able to work
in the same way as OE. For example, in order to gain the list of messages from
the folder list, you have to press the Enter key. Then to go back to the
folders you use F6. Then again when you want to open the next folder, Enter
again. Not as fundamental as just using the tab key back/forth. I find the
process less useful, and in fact do not filter incoming messages to discrete
folders, for that very reason. I don't know of an equivalent keystroke in
Outlook 2007 to the Ctrl+j in OE, that allows me to jump to the next folder
with an unread message. Very convenient, and I never miss anything that way.
In Outlook 2007 I attend to all messages in the inbox and then file them in
appropriate folders.
Perhaps 2003 is not as pedantic as 2007?
Dave Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 18:27
Subject: [Bulk] RE: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
Outlook 2003, and presumably later versions, will do all of this. I find
filtering messages easier in Outlook than I did in OE.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Gary King
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 8:19 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
I have always been able to read email with JFW and Outlook Express in the way I
like best. I filter messages from each list into its appropriate folder and
then start reading at the first unread message. If the message is worth saving,
I move it to another folder for safe keeping; if not, I delete it, and the next
message starts speaking automatically. I normally go all the way through the
unread messages without returning to the message list, unless I need to move a
message to a folder for saving. With the speech set as high as I can understand
it, I can get through a lot of email in a hurry. It's also nice to see how many
messages are being downloaded in a session, how many unread messages are in a
folder and to be able to go to a folder with first-letter navigation, all of
which I can do with Outlook Express.
I hope that at least one of the email program possibilities will let me
continue most of these practices.
Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: Yadiel Sotomayor
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
Well, I am a proud owner of windows life mail and I must say, I found it easier
to work with than outlook express ever was. Don't take my word for it. Mess
around with it a bit. You will get the hang of it very fast. Now, one complain
I have is that I can't use first letter navigation. A shame really.
From: Gary King
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 6:28 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
David, Following your instructions, I found Windows Mail on my Windows 7 Home
Premium system. Before going to the trouble of trying to get it to work,
however, I would like to know how well it works with JFW 12. I don't see it in
the Supported Programs list. I do see Windows Live Mail listed, but don't
really know how well it works either. I know that there are third-party scripts
for Thunderbird, but haven't heard many comments about them on this list.
While I am deciding which email program to try on Windows 7, I am still using
my old faithful Outlook Express on my XP system.
Any comments on the email programs I've mentioned are welcome. I am using JFW
12 Build 522.
Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: David
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
Hello John;
first, the registry tweak is for windows mail, which is very similar to OE.
to find windows mail on a windows 7 machine,
do the following.
1, computer/hard drive "c",
P=programs,
now press the letter "w" until you hear windows mail,
there is the folder.
as for where you can find the documentation?
I could send to you if you wish.
----- Original Message -----
From: john R. Vaughn
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 11:01 AM
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
David, Where do you find the documentation for installation of this outlook
express program and which registry items to change or modify? thank you. John
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
David
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 9:04 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
Hello there;
well, just so you no,
with a couple registry tweaks, you can use windows mail, which is a very
similar to OE.
in fact,
if you go to,
computer, your c drive, then programs, then press the letter "p" a few times,
you will hear/see, windows mail.
as I indicated, with a few registry tweaks, you can get this email client
working on the machine.
have a good day.
----- Original Message -----
From: Yadiel Sotomayor
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
I don't know about OE, but there is no windows mail on win7. Its name is
windows life mail. Now, I know that outlook 2007 and 2010 does work with
windows 7. Maybe you should upgrade.
From: Hamid Hamraz
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 7:28 AM
To: jfw list
Subject: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
Dear all,
I am using windows XP SP3 and outlook 2003. I have configured my Gmail account
exactly as stated in Gmail help. I receive the incoming mails, but I can not
send anything, without any kind of error message! Any suggestions? (I have
imported the settings from OE, and then modified it to the ones in gmail help.)
I really prefer to use OE, but I am switching to windows 7 soon. So I am
looking for a well accessible counterpart for OE. Can OE be installed on
windows 7, instead of windows mail?
Any suggestions/comments is greatly appreciated.
Cheers! Hamid Yadiel J. Sotomayor
E-MAIL: yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx Yadiel J. Sotomayor
E-MAIL: yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx
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