RE: [Bulk] RE: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
- From: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 01:04:03 -0500
Dave,
As you'll remember, I switched from OE to Outlook last spring. You gave me
very useful advice at the time. for me, adjusting from tabbing to pressing
enter + F6 soon became a matter of habit. Actually, I substitute tab for F6
in this process, which made the transition even easier.
Again for me, the process of creating alternative folders for receipt of
certain kinds of messages is more intuitive in Outlook than in OE.
I never used the control-j command in OE because I knew which folders I'd
assigned for incoming messages, and they were few enough to check easily.
What I do miss in Outlook is the control-u command to search for unread
messages. Also, if I'm in a list of messages within a folder, insert-tab
doesn't tell me the message number where focus is placed. Neither flaw is a
deal-breaker for me, though I'd anticipated both would be.
what motivated me to abandon OE was that the number of messages I'd saved
was causing loss of some data. I haven't encountered that problem in
Outlook.
There's another big advantage with Outlook. With OE, you can save only one
message at a time to a text file. with Outlook, you can save an entire
folder, or some part of it, to a single text file.
Again, I'm writing about Outlook 2003 and making the assumption that these
points apply to later versions.
A user not having a problem with OE shouldn't switch. But when the time
comes that updating is required and OE isn't readily available, Outlook has
most of OE's features, a few drawbacks and at least two major
strengths--memory capacity and the ability to copy many messages in a single
operation to a text file. Other listers would add at least one more feature:
Outlook's accessible calendar.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 12:18 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
Adrian,
I use Outlook 2007 at work for my corporate E-Mail and it is not able to
work in the same way as OE. For example, in order to gain the list of
messages from the folder list, you have to press the Enter key. Then to go
back to the folders you use F6. Then again when you want to open the next
folder, Enter again. Not as fundamental as just using the tab key
back/forth. I find the process less useful, and in fact do not filter
incoming messages to discrete folders, for that very reason. I don't know of
an equivalent keystroke in Outlook 2007 to the Ctrl+j in OE, that allows me
to jump to the next folder with an unread message. Very convenient, and I
never miss anything that way.
In Outlook 2007 I attend to all messages in the inbox and then file them in
appropriate folders.
Perhaps 2003 is not as pedantic as 2007?
Dave Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 18:27
Subject: [Bulk] RE: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
Outlook 2003, and presumably later versions, will do all of this. I find
filtering messages easier in Outlook than I did in OE.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Gary King
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 8:19 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
I have always been able to read email with JFW and Outlook Express in the
way I like best. I filter messages from each list into its appropriate
folder and then start reading at the first unread message. If the message is
worth saving, I move it to another folder for safe keeping; if not, I delete
it, and the next message starts speaking automatically. I normally go all
the way through the unread messages without returning to the message list,
unless I need to move a message to a folder for saving. With the speech set
as high as I can understand it, I can get through a lot of email in a hurry.
It's also nice to see how many messages are being downloaded in a session,
how many unread messages are in a folder and to be able to go to a folder
with first-letter navigation, all of which I can do with Outlook Express.
I hope that at least one of the email program possibilities will let me
continue most of these practices.
Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: Yadiel Sotomayor
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
Well, I am a proud owner of windows life mail and I must say, I found it
easier to work with than outlook express ever was. Don't take my word for
it. Mess around with it a bit. You will get the hang of it very fast. Now,
one complain I have is that I can't use first letter navigation. A shame
really.
From: Gary King
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 6:28 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
David, Following your instructions, I found Windows Mail on my Windows 7
Home Premium system. Before going to the trouble of trying to get it to
work, however, I would like to know how well it works with JFW 12. I don't
see it in the Supported Programs list. I do see Windows Live Mail listed,
but don't really know how well it works either. I know that there are
third-party scripts for Thunderbird, but haven't heard many comments about
them on this list.
While I am deciding which email program to try on Windows 7, I am still
using my old faithful Outlook Express on my XP system.
Any comments on the email programs I've mentioned are welcome. I am using
JFW 12 Build 522.
Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: David
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
Hello John;
first, the registry tweak is for windows mail, which is very similar to OE.
to find windows mail on a windows 7 machine,
do the following.
1, computer/hard drive "c",
P=programs,
now press the letter "w" until you hear windows mail,
there is the folder.
as for where you can find the documentation?
I could send to you if you wish.
----- Original Message -----
From: john R. Vaughn
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 11:01 AM
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
David, Where do you find the documentation for installation of this outlook
express program and which registry items to change or modify? thank you.
John
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of David
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 9:04 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
Hello there;
well, just so you no,
with a couple registry tweaks, you can use windows mail, which is a very
similar to OE.
in fact,
if you go to,
computer, your c drive, then programs, then press the letter "p" a few
times, you will hear/see, windows mail.
as I indicated, with a few registry tweaks, you can get this email client
working on the machine.
have a good day.
----- Original Message -----
From: Yadiel Sotomayor
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
I don't know about OE, but there is no windows mail on win7. Its name is
windows life mail. Now, I know that outlook 2007 and 2010 does work with
windows 7. Maybe you should upgrade.
From: Hamid Hamraz
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 7:28 AM
To: jfw list
Subject: Outlook 2003: problem with outgoing mails
Dear all,
I am using windows XP SP3 and outlook 2003. I have configured my Gmail
account exactly as stated in Gmail help. I receive the incoming mails, but I
can not send anything, without any kind of error message! Any suggestions?
(I have imported the settings from OE, and then modified it to the ones in
gmail help.)
I really prefer to use OE, but I am switching to windows 7 soon. So I am
looking for a well accessible counterpart for OE. Can OE be installed on
windows 7, instead of windows mail?
Any suggestions/comments is greatly appreciated.
Cheers! Hamid Yadiel J. Sotomayor
E-MAIL: yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx Yadiel J. Sotomayor
E-MAIL: yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx
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