actually its more complicaed than that, hi jack this is eventually going to be for sale if i understand it so its going to get the lion share of the fixes. their are variants of c w s that are not removed by c w shredder that are possible to remove with hi jack this if you no what to remove, and this is not an easy task to no. so for that reason the first step is to see if c w shredder can remove it before moving toward hi jack this. because its a tool anybody can use. if that fails one can use hi jack this and send a report to the forumns for help on removing more newer strains. bill -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx