Re: Block Quote, on or off

  • From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 15:38:29 -0800

Milton,
I believe you.  This isn't what I meant.  I think my explanation might not 
have been as clear as it could have been.  Sorry for any confusion this 
caused.
Daniel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Milton" <mdimon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Block Quote, on or off


I disagree, For I can see from the left side of my eye in Moore detail than
the looking straight no or to the right. I was good in dodge ball, I would
look at you, but my eyes look like  that I was looking at someone else. so I
hit you, because you just stood there. Thinking that I washing looking at
you.
If I talk to people, I have to turn my head to the left, they wise they will
think I was talking to some one else.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: Block Quote, on or off


Bill,
Thanks for this explanation.  But please understand that you can't literally
see in the same way peripherally as you do with central vision.  Maybe you
just misspoke below, but you've made it sound as if you think that a
basketball player seeing the ball coming at him from the side while he's
looking straight ahead can actually read the Spalding name on the ball, or
that we can make out people's facial features while looking away from them.
This isn't true even when you have 20/20 vision.  Only the macular area has
the concentration of cone photoreceptor cells that we use for seeing detail.
You can't read a newspaper by looking away from it.

To explain further, you may, like me, be able to at least *see* that
newspaper by looking away from it, where it might even totally disappear if
you look straight at it, or at least all the print may turn into a gray
shadow.  But that peripheral vision will not show you people's eyes, nor
allow you to actually discern the text of that newspaper.  Sorry if this is
something you know.  I'm just accustomed to having to explain things like
this to anyone beside ophthalmologists, who understand the design and
function of the retina at a cellular level.

Anyway, I dragged us off topic.  Sorry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Powers" <powersradio@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: Block Quote, on or off


Daniel,

Thanks for your explanation of what your vision is like. Yes when you lose
macular function you wouldn't have any useful central vision. Many people I
run into have had retinal problems all their lives and I find it interesting
they often times see better at an angle instead of straight on. With some
people I know, their retina got twisted when they were born so that in order
for them to even look "straight ahead" they must actually turn their head as
if they are looking away from you and at something else. Of course there are
other complicatiosn of that type of vision but it helps us to understand
that not everyone with vision sees straight-on. I am lucky that I can read
both peripherally and centrally, and considering I was born with congenital
cataracts (from German measles), and considering I am in a constantn fight
to keep my ocular pressure down so that I don't suffer the effects of
glaucoma, I'm one heck of a lucky camper. Still, I try to keep myself aware
of how others see or don't see the screen. In some cases like yours, Magic,
a large print screen reader, probably would not help you, but for some
partials like myself it's a great tool. At least we can count on JAWS!

Bill

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