Bill, I get your point, and Francis's explanation helped, also. I feel I have to explain that, though I'm a partial (high, low, I don't know where the line is), I can't clearly see a Web page in the way you describe, because the part of my retinal function that's gone includes the macula, though the blind area (the "scotoma," to use the correct term) extends outward much farther toward the far peripheries of my retinas. So What I see appears to be a full screen view of the world, so to speak, but lacking a lot of details including people's faces (the head simply blanks out completely when I look straight at it), the actual details of a web page, and so forth. The view is something like an unfinished or blotchy version of a French Impressionist canvas. So even though I see my monitor right in front of me, when I look directly at the screen, it's just a play of light and shadow. Looking away from it, I can see out of the corner of my eye that there are more details, but if I look directly again, it all blurs again. Just to help you understand that I'm using Jaws much more like a total than a high partial, even though I have a lot of useful vision for getting around, until the peripheral edges shut down, too. Anyway, I'm glad we got into this topic because I wouldn't have thought to inquire this deeply into the feature, and besides, Francis contributed a couple of links to truly educational material that will enhance my understanding of Jaws beyond the relative mastery, or at least facility, that I think of myself as having. Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Powers" <powersradio@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: Re: Block Quote, on or off Daniel, I think that the block quotes announcement does help people to figure out what part of a page they are reading, especially if the page has indented text or maybe things like sidebards, etc., that we as partially sighted people would see, diferentiate and take for granted. I think it's a good idea for most people to have the block quotes be announced to give the most information about what they are reading. However, I don't like some of these codes to be PRINTED on the page as I'm eyballing them. Yes, I have 20/200 vision, so I have both central and peripheral vision. I am a very lucky "high partial", while my wife is totally blind. Between us, I get a good sense of how "partials" and "totals" navigate on the computer. Bill -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/2005 -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx