Re: Bad Versions of JAWS

  • From: Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 09:26:53 -0800

Yeah, I was very happy with jfw10 on XP.

On 5/25/11, Yadiel Sotomayor <yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Jaws 10 bad? Seriusly? I have found that on XP, jaws 10 is the best version
> around. Even better than 12 and defenitively better than 11. On windows 7
> however, it is a whole new ball game. 12 is still the best version on this
> OS. Of course, this are just opinions and they are only worth 2 cents. lol
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Dicey
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:51 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Bad Versions of JAWS
>
> Dear Karen and Friends,
> I agree with you totally, it is completely unfare!
> As I said, in a previous message, when I was using JAWS version 9, and
> received version 10 as part of my SMA, having heard how bad it was, I never
> even took the JAWS Program CD out of the mailer, just through it into a box
> in my closet!
>
> And it is still there in the unopened CD mailer!
>
> I waited till JAWS 11 came out before I moved from JAWS 9 to JAWS 11!
>
> With Best Regards,
> Alan
> Miami, Florida
> Alan Dicey, President
> United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
> "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
> United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
> http://AmericanBlindChess.org
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:51 AM
> Subject: Re: the virtual ribbon
>
>
>> cy I agree with you and believe the blind are being penalized big time. I
>> ask myself, would a seeing person put up with this. why could you not just
>>
>> purchase the current version. why do you have to pay for older versions
>> you did not even want or need. Karen
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:28 AM
>> Subject: RE: the virtual ribbon
>>
>>
>>> It is funny that FS handles Open Book updates differently.
>>> Regardless of how many versions you are behind the cost is, I believe,
>>> only
>>> $150 to get current.
>>> Several years ago I had to bring my JAWS up to date and I think it was
>>> something like $500.
>>> What a bunch of nonsense.
>>> Cy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Karen Hughes
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:15 AM
>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: the virtual ribbon
>>>
>>> i too did not update so thought i would not have to pay for something i
>>> did
>>> not use. found out different when charged four hundred and fifty dollars.
>>>
>>> i
>>> had to pay for the new update plus the ones i did not use. buyer beware.
>>> who
>>>
>>> said life was fair. karen
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dawn Thullen" <gdandet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 11:18 PM
>>> Subject: Re: the virtual ribbon
>>>
>>>
>>>>I strongly urge you to buy the SMA if at all possible.  I skipped a
>>>>version
>>>
>>>>and the cost was ridiculous.  Don't forget, the more versions you skip,
>>>>the
>>>
>>>>more money it costs.  As freedomscientific told me "just because you
>>>>didn't
>>>
>>>>upgrade, didn't mean that technology didn't move on."
>>>>
>>>> Dawn
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 5:38 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: the virtual ribbon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Alan,
>>>>>
>>>>> You'll likely wait until you're in a pine box if you hope to get the
>>>>> bugs
>>>>> out. Cynically speaking (as I'm always reluctant to do) each new
>>>>> version
>>>>> will have new bugs and some old bugs remaining, ad infinitum .
>>>>>
>>>>> And in case you're not aware, failure to renew an SMA before a major
>>>>> version
>>>>> comes out will cost you a whole heck of a lot more money. I'll let
>>>>> other
>>>>> chime in on their experience. My advice is to purchase the SMA for 12
>>>>> and
>>>
>>>>> 13
>>>>> and wait for 13. I skipped version 10, for example, as it made me ill.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
>>>>> Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 14:20
>>>>> Subject: the virtual ribbon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Kenny,
>>>>> Thanks very much for that kind offer, but I only have JAWS 11.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose I need to look at getting JAWS 12, but since I do not have
>>>>> any
>>>>> more  SMA's,  and I am hoping they will get all the bugs out of that
>>>>> version
>>>>> before I purchase it, well I will wait a bit more!
>>>>> Besides, I understand that the  "virtual ribbon" is not a total "fix",
>>>>> it
>>>>> only helps out a bit, is that correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, I have been using the JAWS Menu bars since 1999, with JAWS 3.3!
>>>>>
>>>>> And although I feel I am making a little progress getting the hang of
>>>>> it,
>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>> see it will be a slow learning curb!
>>>>> A completely different thing!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>>
>>>>> With Best Regards,
>>>>> Alan
>>>>> Miami, Florida
>>>>> Alan Dicey, President
>>>>> United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
>>>>> "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
>>>>> United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
>>>>> http://AmericanBlindChess.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Kenny Peyatt" <p.wildcat1234@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 3:51 PM
>>>>> Subject: the virtual ribbon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi allan The virtual ribbon is a jaws 12 feature. To turn it on in
>>>>>> jaws
>>>>>> 12
>>>>>> You go to the setttings center. If you like I can connect to your
>>>>>> computer
>>>>>> through jaws tandom and activate the feature for you.
>>>>>> --
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> Yadiel J. Sotomayor
>
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